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Indy, while you were posting, I was pre-ordering! Baesd on the first 9 volumes, they usually end up pushing back the actual release date by a week or two. Luckily, I live within 15 minutes of Hip-O Select's Shelton, CT headquarters, and as a result always get it within just a day or two of shipment, even using the "standard shipping" option. I will confirm the track listing info that Indy posted as soon as I get it. And FYI, the last two boxes, Volumes 11 & 12, for 1971 & 1972, should both be out, by this Aug/Sept & November, respectfully.
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Great news indeed! I must admit, I had a sinking feeling "Indiana Wants Me" might get overlooked for this box set release given that R. Dean Taylor simply isn't a name synonymous with the Motown label. What a pleasant surprise to know the box set will contain both a promo and commercial 45 version!
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Indy500 wrote:
Exciting news.
The Complete Motown Singles Volume 10: 1970
RELEASE DATE: June 27, 2008
Indiana Wants Me - R. Dean Taylor (Commercial Version)
Indiana Wants Me - R. Dean Taylor (Promo Version)
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Whee hoo! FINALLY! And coming out on my birthday, too -- happy birthday to me! :D
It should be available to general retail in about two months, and Deep Discount only charges $100 for these sets with no tax and free shipping. But this particular volume, I don't know if I'm going to be able to wait for. (Actually, I take that back, since Hip-O charges $10 shipping on items over $100. Eesh!)
Edited by Brian W. on 21 June 2008 at 12:20pm
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Damn, too bad "Mama's Pearl" isn't on this one, though. I guess it'll on the next (final) volume.
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You're way too young to know this, Todd, but R. (which stands for Richard, FYI) Dean Taylor was already a grizzled, behind-the-scenes veteran of the Motown operation by 1970. He had actually "ghost-written/produced" several of the company's big hit songs, my research has revealed, even though Motown would usually publicly credit one or more of their "marquee staff, name-brand" writers or production team, instead of him, strictly for marketing purposes. But Taylor was a loyal company man, however, and understood why. As such, he was allowed to "dabble" in the occasional, personal solo project when the studios were not in use. FYI, Taylor also happened to also the be the voice of "this is the police - give yourself up" on "Indiana Wants Me", did all of his own harmony, backup vocals, added all of the sound effects, and was, in fact, a one-man operation, on each and every production facet of his big hit. And, with the start of their Rare Earth subsidary, this proved to be the perfect Motown-related vehicle for the company to finally release his "side project". I agree though, Todd, I was also a little worried that they might overlook one of the various 45 versions for the 1970 box. I also might add that the first commercial stereo 45 issued on Motown was in 1969. It was "The Weight" by Diana Ross & The Supremes And The Temptations (which Pat has already, and quite impressively, noted in his database.) It also appears in stereo on the "Motown Singles Box, Vol. 9: 1969". And while I don't expect to find too many "stereo single versions" to surface on the upcoming 1970 Complete Motown Singles box (I've never heard any of the "Indiana Wants Me" 45 versions in stereo, for example), we should start to see at least a trickle of stereo 45 versions to appear on there, as some songs began to be originally mixed that way, on the 1970-1971-1972 boxes.
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A bit off topic, but since we were talking about the "Complete Motown" series, a poster on the Steve Hoffman board claims the 1969 volume uses the wrong tape for "I'm Livin' in Shame":
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http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=152264
Which led me to look up the song in the database, and, Pat, there appears to be a listing error.
The notation at the top of the page says the 45 runs 3:05, yet the 3:06 versions in the listing have the note: "8 seconds longer than the 45 or LP."
If the 3:05 running time is correct, the 2:57-2:58 versions should instead have a note that they are shorter than the 45.
Edited by Brian W. on 22 June 2008 at 12:41pm
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Brian, I only posted about the newly-discovered "I'm Livin' In Shame" (3:05) actual run time info less than two weeks ago, on 6/9/08. This appears to simply be a case where Pat, who has recently added this new (3:05) database notation, simply forgot to quickly scan down the list of existing database CDs for the song, and delete/update any old notations, that I'm sure he'd long ago already entered, before my new information was posted, like that ":08 seconds longer than the 45 or LP" comment. I'm sure Pat will be correcting it shortly.
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Hmm, I did do a search for it, and came up with nothing.
I just tried it again, and what happened is the word "livin'" has a "smart quote" curved asterisk on your posting, and but the font I'm using just has a straight up and down asterisk, so the search engine didn't find it.
Pat, maybe your programmer can put that on his "to-do" list for sometime in the future -- for the search feature to ignore punctuation.
Try it... cut and paste the new Harold Melvin "If You Don't Know Me" thread title (not from here, from the actual thread title) and paste it in the search field and press "search." It comes up with nothing found.
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Seeing how there are confirmed two different pressings of Indiana Wants Me on 45, i'm curious as to which one will be called the promo version and which one will be called the commercial version, and whether either of those is accurate or not. Also, the short 45 version does exist in stereo on a reissue 45 as noted elsewhere on this board....
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Brian W. wrote:
| Damn, too bad "Mama's Pearl" isn't on this one, though. I guess it'll on the next (final) volume. |
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It wouldn't be the final if they're going to 1972 ("Mama's Pearl" was a hit in 1971).
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sriv94 wrote:
Brian W. wrote:
| Damn, too bad "Mama's Pearl" isn't on this one, though. I guess it'll on the next (final) volume. |
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It wouldn't be the final if they're going to 1972 ("Mama's Pearl" was a hit in 1971). |
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Yeah, I think I misspoke on that. I think they are going to 1972. So there should be two more volumes after this.
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TomDiehl1 wrote:
| Seeing how there are confirmed two different pressings of Indiana Wants Me on 45, i'm curious as to which one will be called the promo version and which one will be called the commercial version, and whether either of those is accurate or not. Also, the short 45 version does exist in stereo on a reissue 45 as noted elsewhere on this board.... |
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I'm wondering about the mislabeling, too, since there short version was not just a "promo."
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jimct wrote:
| I've never heard any of the "Indiana Wants Me" 45 versions in stereo |
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My copy of the Motown "Yesteryear Series" re-issue 45 is in stereo (and not just the sound effects). The label states the time as (3:35) but it actually runs (3:01). After a by no means thorough comparison between it and my copy of the original (3:01) 45 (which is mono), I can't detect a difference. Unfortunately this series, especially the stereo recordings, has horrible sound quality. I recall reading a letter to the editor in Billboard in the late 1980's in which a dealer stated he would no longer stock Motown re-issue 45s after receiving numerous complaints.
Among the songs Taylor claims to have co-written are "Standing in the Shadows of Love" and "Love Is Here and Now You're Gone".
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I should've clarified my above comment - I, too, have that stereo 45 re-issue - I'll have to pull it from storage. I just don't personally believe in referring to such re-issues when reporting to the Board, but I can certainly see where the contents of those could be of value/interest, like with Andy's recent post about his excellent-sounding "I Believe" stereo re-issue 45. I was also pleasantly surprised to read Paul C's comment about his re-issue 45's stereo separation not being limited to the sound effects, which was my recollection as well. In other news, I happily just received e-mail notification from Hip-O Select that my 1970 Motown Singles Box was shipped today, right on time, on its scheduled 6/27 release date, so I will be able to shortly and fully report on the mono/stereo status of "Indiana Wants Me" on there.
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I gave my set a quick listen.
The promo is 3:02 or so and the commercial is 3:34.
Both are mono. The promo doesn't mix the opening effects out, it just edits the first 8 seconds or so.
Hopefully someone can fill in some more details.
Set looks and sounds fantastic.
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Indy500, based on your nickname I certainly know you can get from "Point A" to "Point B" in a big hurry. But I have no idea, unless you work for Hip-O Select, how you can already have in your possession a "mail-order-only, not-available-in-stores" 6-CD set, the same DAY it is released and mailed out? I've even made the short drive to Hip-O Select headquarters myself, and they outright refused to me simply hand me a pre-ordered, previous Motown Singles Box Volume. All product shipped by mail only, they told me. But since you somehow do already have Volume 10, can I just bypass Hip-O Select entirely, and simply order Volumes 11 & 12 through you instead????? :)
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Well, this is the volume I've been waiting for so I did get the 2 day shipping.
And according to the liner notes, Taylor is not the voice of "This is the police," but that it's Don Gooch, a recording engineer and part-time trombone player.
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They still must've two-day shipped it to you before Friday, Indy, because it's still just Saturday; only ONE day later than the 6/27 release date! :) And great job on the Don Gooch "this is the police" correction. I got the "R. Dean was the police voice" from a normally-reliable reference book, but the liner notes on these Motown Singles Boxes have proven to be nothing short of incredibly insightful, so I stand corrected!
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I think my email notice was received Thur Am, so yeah, they must have shipped it Wed. I was just wanting it next week so I was pleasantly surprised to trip over it Friday afternoon on my way to work.
The track after "Indiana" is "Come On People" by The Rustix (also produced By R Dean Taylor) and how it wasn't a hit in the summer of 1970 is beyond me. Great lost track.
Hope yours arrives Monday.
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I was excited to hear the news about the 1970 singles box being released, but it completely slipped my mind that iTunes got 1967, 1968 and 1969 about six to eight weeks later than retail. Oh well. . .I've waited this long, might as well wait a few weeks longer.
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