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Brian W.
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Hey, I just found out that the US 45 version of Thriller has an official name. It's called "Remixed Short Version":
Thriller UK 12-inch
The 4:37 version found on many imports is called "Special Edit":
Thriller UK 45
The 5:11 edit on the US promo 45 was called simply "Thriller (with Rap)."
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yeah i knew that.. i assumed you guys knew.
give me that short version or the full length album version anyday. i don't like those 4:37 and 5:11 edits.
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Well, "Can't Get Outta the Rain" is finally being released domestically on a regular, full-length CD today. Sony is putting out a "Special Editions" of their previous "Essential" collections, called "Essential 3.0," with a third disc containing seven or eight tracks in each set.
The Michael Jackson 3.0 does contain "Can't Get Outta the Rain," but no other real rarities.
There's a Billy Joel "Essential 3.0" coming out today, too, but there are no previously unreleased tracks on the third disc. There aren't on most of them... it's really a waste of time.
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..and on a further UK compilation out next month, again on a bonus third disc!
Track Listings
Disc: 1
1. Billie Jean
2. Bad
3. Smooth Criminal
4. Thriller
5. Black Or White
6. Beat It
7. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
8. Don't Stop Till You Get Enough
9. Way You Make Me Feel
10. Rock With You
11. You Are Not Alone
12. Man In The Mirror
13. Remember The Time
14. Scream
15. You Rock My World
16. They Don't Care About Us
17. Earth Song
Disc: 2
1. Dirty Diana
2. Say Say Say
3. Off The Wall
4. Human Nature
5. I Just Can't Stop Loving You
6. Heal The World
7. Will You Be There
8. Stranger In Moscow
9. Speechless
10. She's Out Of My Life
11. Girl Is Mine
12. Butterflies
13. Who Is It
14. Ghost
15. Blood On The Dance Floor
16. Workin' Day And Night
17. History
18. Give In To Me
Disc: 3
1. Can't Get Outta The Rain
2. On The Line
3. Someone Put Your Hand Out
4. Is It Scary
5. Smile
6. Billie Jean
7. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
8. Bad
9. Way You Make Me Feel
10. Another Part Of Me
11. Smooth Criminal
12. Black Or White
13. Thriller Megamix
Edited by waldo on 27 August 2008 at 3:31am
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Does the King Of Pop UK set contain 45 or LP versions? Details, details... :)
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not sure. LP versions knowing Sony.
one has been issued in every country.. check this out:
http://www.mjdatabank.com/news/prochainement/mj_50.htm
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Some of the songs on some countries' versions of the CD say "7-inch edit," but I have a funny feeling they are the bogus LP edits that were done for "Essential Michael Jackson."
Michael Palmaccio, the mastering engineer on that set, told me that usually when a remaster is done, the tape is marked as the one to use on all future compilations.
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The UK 3CD set is up on the UK iTunes. You can listen to the versions there.
I'm on shitty speakers here at work right now I can't tell how well things are
mastered or if they are the right mixes, but Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
actually sounds like the real 7" mix (I hear horn/synth trailoff!).
*Took the link down since it didn't work*
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Nick2341 wrote:
The UK 3CD set is up on the UK iTunes. You can listen to the versions there.
I'm on shitty speakers here at work right now I can't tell how well things are
mastered or if they are the right mixes, but Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
actually sounds like the real 7" mix (I hear horn/synth trailoff!). Here's the
link to the iTunes store.
id=288873147&s=143444">King Of Pop 3CD Set |
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Ooh... I listened to the sample (won't let you buy it from the US), and it might actually be the real deal this time. I don't hear the cut off horn on "Billie Jean is always talkin'" in this sample. I think I'll have to buy it. Thanks, Nick!
BTW, for anyone else who wants to have a listen, I could not access it through Nick's link -- I had to go to my iTunes, scroll to the bottom of the screen, and select "UK" from the "My Store" drop-down menu.
Edited by Brian W. on 28 August 2008 at 1:10pm
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Some of the rarer edits will be nice to have on this CD set. Also, it may be
the crappy speakers I'm on, but does The Way You Make Me Feel sound like
the original album version?
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Nick2341 wrote:
Some of the rarer edits will be nice to have on this CD set. Also, it may be
the crappy speakers I'm on, but does The Way You Make Me Feel sound like
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It sounds like the remixed album-length version that was done for HiStory. On the original-original album version, the vocal was much lower in volume.
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Brian W. wrote:
Nick2341 wrote:
Some of the rarer edits will be
nice to have on this CD set. Also, it may be
the crappy speakers I'm on, but does The Way You Make Me Feel sound
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It sounds like the remixed album-length version that was done for
HiStory. On the original-original album version, the vocal was much
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It was definitely the shitty speakers then haha. Can't Get Outta The Rain
doesn't have that strange distortion like the Thriller ringle and Japanese
single set. Wonder who decided it was time to get a few things right? This
could mean the 7" versions listed on other CDs could be correct this time
:).
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In surfing the internet, I've seen CD 1 sold as a standalone, available now, whereas the 3 CD set isn't available until 9/22.
Has anyone pre-ordered?
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eriejwg wrote:
In surfing the internet, I've seen CD 1 sold as a
standalone, available now, whereas the 3 CD set isn't available until 9/22.
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I haven't, but I plan to.
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Are the tracks available for purchase already on the UK iTunes?
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eriejwg wrote:
Are the tracks available for purchase already on the UK iTunes?
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Yes.
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Tonight, I Googled purchasing UK iTunes tracks from the U.S. I came across a chat board discussion from 3 years ago that said it can't be done. Unless someone knows a hidden trick, or someone from the UK. :)
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eriejwg wrote:
Tonight, I Googled purchasing UK iTunes tracks from the
U.S. I came across a chat board discussion from 3 years ago that said it
can't be done. Unless someone knows a hidden trick, or someone from the
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It can be done if you know someone from the other country you're trying to
buy from. They enter all their info to sign up for the account, then once it's
created they delete their info and put in yours and it's supposed to work.
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Nick2341 wrote:
It can be done if you know someone from the other country you're trying to
buy from. They enter all their info to sign up for the account, then once it's
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I doubt that works these days, because they have software that recognizes your IP address and can tell if your PC is in the UK or not. I've read posts on bulletin boards from UK residents complaining they can't access their own iTunes when they travel out of the country.
There's a UK download site called 7digital.com that, several months ago, let me register and download. But a couple weeks ago, I tried to buy a song, and a screen popped up that said, "Access restriction in effect," and that I had to live in the UK to buy. I tried changing my address to a UK address, but no dice. It was recognizing my IP address is not in the UK.
I also tried using a proxy server in the UK, several of them, and have so far not been able to access my account. I can log on to the site, but I can't LOGON to my account, which I need to do to purchase.
(P.S. I did manage to get on 7digital through a proxy server after typing that message, but unfortunately, they don't have "King of Pop.")
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I now believe more than ever that this is likely the 45 version of "Wanna Be." On the sample, I can hear that slight EQ switch on the word "always" on "Billie Jean is always talkin'" that is present on the 45, and is NOT present on the LP edit from "Essential."
BTW, the standard one-disc edition of "King of Pop" with the red cover, which does contain "Wanna Be" in this version and is much less expensive, is available right now. You don't have to pre-order the three-disc set. The one-disc edition is simply Disc One of the three-disc set.
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