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sriv94 MusicFan
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Posted: 31 August 2013 at 2:56pm | IP Logged
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Hi. Was doing some spelunking on iTunes and saw that they have a version of the CD Man Of Colours with three different lengths of "Crazy"--one that runs (3:23), one that runs (4:47) [the "Midnight Mix"] and one that runs (7:19) [the 12" version]. It is safe to assume the (3:23) version is the U.S. 45 version? (This appears to be licensed from Diva Records Pty Ltd.)
Thanks. I'll hang up and listen for my answer. :)
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Paul Haney MusicFan
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sriv94 wrote:
It is safe to assume the (3:23) version is the U.S. 45 version? |
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Yes, it is.
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Pat Downey Admin Group
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Posted: 01 September 2013 at 7:29am | IP Logged
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My cd of "Man Of Colours" features as track 1 the LP version of Crazy which runs (4:47) as does the vinyl LP of the same name. Was this cd reissued with the 45 version of Crazy substituted for the LP version or is Itunes taking their own liberty by making the digital version of "Man Of Colours" an altered version of the original vinyl and cd issue?
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Pat Downey wrote:
...is Itunes taking their own liberty by making the
digital version of "Man Of Colours" an altered version of the original vinyl and
cd issue? |
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Just an FYI, iTunes does not have any input on specific song/album versions
that are released. All music for sale has to be uploaded directly by the
company that owns or controls the recording.
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sriv94 MusicFan
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From looking at Discogs, it appears iTunes has the 2002
import version, which apparently substitutes the U.S. 45
version for the U.S. LP version as Track 1. The "Midnight
Mix" apparently is not the U.S. LP version, even though
both run (4:47).
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iTunes has a collection from Icehouse called "White Heat
- 30 Hits" which is not listed in the database.
"Crazy" is listed as being 3:24 and "Electric Blue" is
listed as 4:25.
Does anyone know if Crazy is the 45 version and Electric
Blue is the 45 mix on this collection?
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eriejwg MusicFan
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Bought the 2 songs and they match what Ron said about
Electric Blue to determine the difference between the 45
mix and LP version. Crazy runs 3:22, which obviously
would be the 45 version.
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crapfromthepast MusicFan
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I'm pretty sure the 45 version is just an edit of the LP version, but I haven't checked.
The 45 version of "Crazy" turns up on the Chrysalis sampler Audio Buffet 2 (1987), and on a very obscure Canadian compilation from Quality Records called This Is Music 4 (1988).
My '80s-era pressing of Man Of Colours (1987) has the 4:49 LP version, the 7:21 12 Inch Mix, and the 4:49 Midnight Mix.
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Plastic Steel MusicFan
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Yes, the LP version can be edited down to create the 45 version. It's just one easy edit: remove the section starting at 2:08.7 and ending at 3:33.8 (right at the beginning of a sustained "craaaaaaazyyyy" belted out by Iva Davies).
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elcoleccionista MusicFan
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I don't believe the 45 version can be recreated editing the
LP version. As far as I can tell, the single version is
slightly remixed, e.g. the electric guitar is pushed
forward in the 45 version.
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mjb50 MusicFan
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Hmm. I am relying on a mono rip YouTube and the aforementioned Man Of Colours CD with multiple versions of the song on it, and I'm not hearing any difference in the guitar.
By the way, that CD used lossy sources for the single version, Midnight Mix, and 12" Version (a.k.a. Manic Mix)! Tsk.
@Plastic Steel, to get your edit to be identical, at 2:08, the start of the section to cut comes 0.025s before the 4-beat that precedes the title lyric (that is, the edit point is not right at "craaazy", but over a full beat prior). At 3:33, the end of the section to remove comes 0.050s before the same beat; this results in the "craaazy" starting a little bit later than the one it replaced.
Edited by mjb50 on 03 December 2024 at 5:45am
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995wlol MusicFan
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mjb50 wrote:
By the way, that CD used lossy sources for the single
version, Midnight Mix, and 12" Version (a.k.a. Manic Mix)!
Tsk.
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What pressing are you using? I don't see how those tracks
could be lossy since the only US CD is the original
pressing from 1987 that was produced only into the early
90s.
Edited by 995wlol on 05 December 2024 at 11:05am
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mjb50 MusicFan
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The 2002 remastered Australian CD. Oh, I mistakenly thought that only that CD had the extra versions of Crazy. I gotta get one of the originals, then!
Edited by mjb50 on 05 December 2024 at 11:21am
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995wlol MusicFan
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mjb50 wrote:
The 2002 remastered Australian CD. Oh, I
mistakenly thought that only that CD had the extra
versions of Crazy. I gotta get one of the originals, then!
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Yes, all US CDs had the extra tracks from the beginning
(even the advance promo).
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elcoleccionista MusicFan
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Posted: 12 December 2024 at 2:29pm | IP Logged
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mjb50 wrote:
Hmm. I am relying on
a mono
rip YouTube and the aforementioned Man Of
Colours CD with multiple versions of the song on it,
and I'm not hearing any difference in the guitar.
By the way, that CD used lossy sources for the single
version, Midnight Mix, and 12" Version (a.k.a. Manic
Mix)! Tsk.
@Plastic Steel, to get your edit to be identical, at
2:08, the start of the section to cut comes 0.025s before
the 4-beat that precedes the title lyric (that is, the
edit point is not right at "craaazy", but over a full
beat prior). At 3:33, the end of the section to remove
comes 0.050s before the same beat; this results in the
"craaazy" starting a little bit later than the one it
replaced.
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I see, maybe the quite different EQ'ing between versions
misled my ears.
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