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EdisonLite
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Posted: 31 March 2006 at 10:37pm \| IP Logged

I thought I'd start a thread that might be useful to some of the regulars on the board -- a listing of songs where the single version/edit is different from the album version for top 100 hits that peaked below the top 40 or are NOT in Pat's book (These might include Hot 100 hits that peaked between 37 and 40 but are not in the book). If anyone else can contribute to this thread, I think it will be useful to many of us. Because the singles aren't in Pat's book, we may not even be aware that there's a single version/edit out there, and since this is a topic of interest to so many of us, I feel it's worthy of a thread. So far starters, here are some I know of:

Air Supply - The Power of Love
Regina Belle - Make It Like It Was
Blondie - Island of Lost Souls
Boomtown Rats - I Don't Like Mondays
Belinda Carlisle - I Feel the Magic
Cheap Trick - Tonight It's You
Desmond Child - You're the Story of My Life
Joe Cocker - What Are You Doing With a Fool Like Me
Mac Davis - Everybody Loves a Love Song
Paul Davis - Love Or Let Me Be Lonely
Gloria Estefan - Oye Mi Canto
Fire, Inc. - Tonight Is What It Means to Be Young
Get Wet - Just So Lonely
Debbie Gibson - We Could Be Together
Hall & Oates - I Don't Wanna Lose You
Don Henley - New York Minute
Dan Hill - Never Thought
Roger Hodgson - Had a Dream
Whitney Houston & Teddy Pendergrass - Hold Me
Mick Jagger - Throwaway
Kool & the Gang - Special Way
Lighthouse - Pretty Lady
Melissa Manchester - Theme from Ice Castles
Penny McLean - Lady Bump
Moody Blues - Talking Out of Turn
Wendy Moten - Come In Out of the Rain
Alan Parsons Project - Let's Talk about Me
Alan Parsons Project - Days Are Numbers
Poco - Nothin' To Hide
Diana Ross - One More Chance
Silvetti - Spring Rain
Starz - Sing It Shout It
Rod Stewart - Having a Party
Curtis Stigers - You're All That Matters to Me
Barbra Streisand - Left in the Dark
10cc - I'm Mandy Fly Me
Bonnie Tyler - If You Were a Woman

Edited by EdisonLite on 31 March 2006 at 10:39pm

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Alphaville - Big In Japan
Bananarama - A Trick Of The Night
Jackson Browne - Rock Me On The Water
Communards - Never Can Say Goodbye
Earth, Wind & Fire - System Of Survival
Earth, Wind & Fire - Thinking Of You
Fleetwood Mac - Sisters Of The Moon
Fleetwood Mac - Fireflies
Debbie Harry - French Kissin'
INXS - Original Sin
Jacksons - Can You Feel It
Jacksons - Body
Billy Joel - Goodnight Saigon
Midnight Star - Freak-A-Zoid
Midnight Star - No Parking (On The Dance Floor)
Midnight Star - Midas Touch
Peter, Paul & Mary - The Cruel War
Stars On 45 - Medley II
Stars On 45 - More Stars
Donna Summer - Unconditional Love
Tina Turner - Break Every Rule
Stevie Wonder - You Will Know

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Posted: 01 April 2006 at 12:57am \| IP Logged

Nice thread.

But could I kindly ask that the above posters, at their respective conveniences, please note which singles had MIX differences as opposed to simple edits or early fades.

I am one of those people that generally prefers the full-length version of a hit MIX (but I will admit that I'm also fascinated by complexly edited singles that are the same mix as their LP counterparts [such as Chicago's "Beginnings"]).

Almost always, I prefer the single version if it is remixed from the album and received the lion's share of airplay (even if it's shorter).

If the promo "radio version" is a different mix than the commercial single I generaly prefer the promo version.

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Air Supply - The Power of Love - edit (and about 1 second of mix)
Regina Belle - Make It Like It Was - edit
Blondie - Island of Lost Souls - edit
Boomtown Rats - I Don't Like Mondays - edit
Belinda Carlisle - I Feel the Magic - mix
Cheap Trick - Tonight It's You - edit
Desmond Child - You're the Story of My Life - fade
Joe Cocker - What Are You Doing With a Fool Like Me - mix
Mac Davis - Everybody Loves a Love Song - mix
Paul Davis - Love Or Let Me Be Lonely - 45 has additional verse not on LP (and is missing other sections)
Gloria Estefan - Oye Mi Canto - mix
Fire, Inc. - Tonight Is What It Means to Be Young - edit
Get Wet - Just So Lonely - shorter than LP but last 10 seconds of 45 are not on LP
Debbie Gibson - We Could Be Together - edit (I think)
Hall & Oates - I Don't Wanna Lose You - mix
Don Henley - New York Minute - edit
Dan Hill - Never Thought - mix (a few overdubs)
Roger Hodgson - Had a Dream - edit
Whitney Houston & Teddy Pendergrass - Hold Me - fade
Mick Jagger - Throwaway - edit
Kool & the Gang - Special Way - mix (radical difference!)
Lighthouse - Pretty Lady - edit
Melissa Manchester - Theme from Ice Castles - edit
Penny McLean - Lady Bump - edit
Moody Blues - Talking Out of Turn - edit (but I'm not sure if there are mix differences, too)
Wendy Moten - Come In Out of the Rain - edit
Alan Parsons Project - Let's Talk about Me - edit (and about 1 second of mix)
Alan Parsons Project - Days Are Numbers - edit
Poco - Nothin' To Hide - edit
Diana Ross - One More Chance - fade
Silvetti - Spring Rain - edit
Starz - Sing It Shout It - edit & mix
Rod Stewart - Having a Party - edit
Curtis Stigers - You're All That Matters to Me - mix
Barbra Streisand - Left in the Dark - edit
10cc - I'm Mandy Fly Me - edit
Bonnie Tyler - If You Were a Woman - edit

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Posted: 01 April 2006 at 8:48am \| IP Logged

I'm pretty sure these 45s are edits, but I don't know if mix differences are also in play. Please correct if I'm wrong.

Stealin' - Uriah Heap
Woman From Tokyo - Deep Purple
Atomic Dog - George Clinton
Rockit - Herbie Hancock
Fool For The City - Foghat
Ride The Tiger - Jefferson Starship
Love, Reign O'er Me - The Who
My World Feel Down - Sagittarius (45 is longer and there are some mix differences and maybe some overdubbing--I'm not sure)
All I Want Is You - U2
Locomotive Breath - Jethro Tull
I Heard It Through The Grapevine - CCR
Ridin' The Storm Out (Live) - REO Speedwagon
Never Been Any Reason - Head East

I'm sure there are more, but I can't find any others at the moment.

Edited by sriv94 on 01 April 2006 at 1:22pm

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Alphaville - Big In Japan (remix)
Bananarama - A Trick Of The Night (remix)
Jackson Browne - Rock Me On The Water (different recording?)
Communards - Never Can Say Goodbye (remix)
Earth, Wind & Fire - System Of Survival (remix)
Earth, Wind & Fire - Thinking Of You (remix)
Fleetwood Mac - Sisters Of The Moon (remix)
Fleetwood Mac - Fireflies (remix)
Debbie Harry - French Kissin' (edit)
INXS - Original Sin (remix)
Jacksons - Can You Feel It (edit)
Jacksons - Body (remix)
Billy Joel - Goodnight Saigon (edit)
Midnight Star - Freak-A-Zoid (edit, some mix difference)
Midnight Star - No Parking (On The Dance Floor) (early fade)
Midnight Star - Midas Touch (remix)
Peter, Paul & Mary - The Cruel War (different vocal, strings added)
Stars On 45 - Medley II (edit)
Stars On 45 - More Stars (edit)
Donna Summer - Unconditional Love (edit)
Tina Turner - Break Every Rule (remix)
Stevie Wonder - You Will Know (edit)

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Posted: 01 April 2006 at 11:16am \| IP Logged

Thought of a few more:

Vahevala - Loggins & Messina
5:15 - The Who
Spirits In The Night - Manfred Mann's Earth Band (different lead vocalist and shorter)
Forever Autumn - Justin Hayward
Fashion - David Bowie
I'm A Man - Chicago
Once In a Lifetime - Talking Heads (might have one mix difference to facilitate one of the edits; not totally positive)
The Great Beyond - R.E.M. (OK, I don't know if the radio edit made it to vinyl or not, but I do have the CD single)

That's all for now. Maybe more later.

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Posted: 01 April 2006 at 12:04pm \| IP Logged

Thank You, Thank You!

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Posted: 03 April 2006 at 8:58pm \| IP Logged

Great topic!

Here are a few off the top of my head. I don't have access to the database so I apologize if these are already listed:

Kim Wilde "You Came" (remix)
Cathy Dennis "Everybody Move" (remix)
Cyndi Lauper "Who Let In The Rain" (edit)
Cyndi Lauper "That's What I Think" (edit)
Madonna "Love Don't Live Here Anymore" (remix)
Madonna "Hollywood" (edit)
Mariah Carey "Through The Rain" (edit)
Celine Dion "Nothing Broken But My Heart" (remix)
Jody Watley "Most Of All" (remix)
Heart "Want You So Bad" (remix)

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Posted: 11 July 2006 at 8:53am \| IP Logged

Re:Madonna

Bedtime Story (Album Edit)*
Human Nature (Radio Version)
Love Don't Live Here Anymore (Soulpower Radio Remix)
Sorry (Single Edit)

* - debatable as the full recording (with a cleaned up intro so it's still technically different) appears on the 2 track single...at the time of this singles' release, Warner Bros. loved putting the LP Versions on their 2 track CD singles (see also: Prince/The Artist...) and the edits with the more popular maxi singles. Radio stations and international singles almost always included the edits on all formats.

Missed the Hot 100:
- Everybody (see below)
- Burning Up (see below)
- Hollywood (Radio Edit)
- Nothing Fails (Radio Edit) / (Radio Remix)
- Love Profusion (Headcleanr Rock Mix)
- Get Together (Radio Version)

Also, her first two US releases were 12" singles only. "Everybody" is longer and "Burning Up" has a different backing track than what ended up on the Madonna album.

Edits of both were issued. "Everybody" is now available on a commercial Back-To-Back Hits 7" and is different from the faded version heard on the Madonna album. Burning Up is on international 7" releases and the Japanese CD Singles box set. Both are the 12" versions chopped up, not special mixes.

The 2001 remastered edition of the Madonna album replaced the shorter "Everybody" with the original 12" length..."Burning Up" is included as a bonus track.

Edited by Underground Dub on 11 July 2006 at 8:59am

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Underground Dub wrote:

Also, her first two US releases were 12" singles only. "Everybody" is longer and "Burning Up" has a different backing track than what ended up on the Madonna album.

Edits of both were issued. "Everybody" is now available on a commercial Back-To-Back Hits 7" and is different from the faded version heard on the Madonna album. Burning Up is on international 7" releases and the Japanese CD Singles box set. Both are the 12" versions chopped up, not special mixes.

"Everybody" was on a 7-inch single. It bubbled-under, but these days it seems easier to find the promo single that the actual commercial single.

"Physical Attraction" was a promo-only 45, but it was never released commercially.

When "Holiday" became her first chart entry, it was actually her third song to pressed on a 7-inch single!

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To my knowledge there was originally no commercial 7" for Everybody, but the edit was issued in the late 80's on a Back-To-Back Hits 7" with Papa Don't Preach. Do you happen to have a catalog number or image of a commercial release from 1982?

I know the track bubbled under (at 107), but thought it did so as the 12" release.

Edited by Underground Dub on 11 July 2006 at 9:43am

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[QUOTE=Underground Dub] Re:Madonna

Bedtime Story (Album Edit)*

* - debatable as the full recording (with a cleaned up intro so it's still technically different) appears on the 2 track single...at the time of this singles' release, Warner Bros. loved putting the LP Versions on their 2 track CD singles (see also: Prince/The Artist...) and the edits with the more popular maxi singles. Radio stations and international singles almost always included the edits on all formats.

I'm a bit confused here, with "Bedtime Story" do you mean to say that besides the "cut" intro, the album edit is the full album version? There is another edit right after she sings "longing and yearning, how can I explain how I feel...". The edit chops off the last "let's get unconscious honey..." verse, and the "electric" synth sound kicks right after.

Most if not all 2 track USA CD singles that Warner released for Madonna between 1992-1996 contain the edit/radio mixes, same thing for their cd maxi single counterparts. All cardboard sleeve 2 track singles from "Erotica" contain the edits, and as far as I can recall same thing for the "Bedtime Stories" singles. Non contain album versions. The domestic 2 track singles from the 1995 "Something To Remember" compilation (Love Don't Live and "You'll See") are also included in their single versions.

The "You Must Love Me" 2 track also had the single version, and "Don't Cry For Me" only had a maxi single.

So what you mention, with Madonna at least, started to happen with the 1998 "Ray Of Light" cd singles, all containing album versions, leaving those which had edits for promo release only (later commercially available on GHV2).

Also, I remember Faith No More's "Evidence" 1995 2 track cd single on Reprise (Warner), and it had the edit version of the song.

Maybe it was more usual with Prince?

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Posted: 11 July 2006 at 10:22am \| IP Logged

I have theses singles at home so can't double check now, but checking Brian's thread, I was wrong as far as two singles off "Bedtime Stories":

"Secret" and "Take A Bow" apparently do use the album versions. They seem more like exceptions to the rule, if you count the number of US Madonna 2 track cd singles that used edits in their configuration between 1992-1996.

Edited by elcoleccionista on 11 July 2006 at 10:25am

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During this time there were many instances where the single versions were only on the maxi singles or weren't commercially issued at all:

- Erotica: ALBUM Version on single, Edit on maxi-single
- Secret: ALBUM Version on single, Edit on maxi-single
- Take A Bow: ALBUM Version on both single and maxi-single. The Edit was not commercially issued in the US (until GHV2), but was the video and radio version, and was on all imports
- Bedtime Story: ALBUM Version on single, Edit on maxi-single
- You'll See: ALBUM Version on single and maxi-single. The Edit is the hit version and is available on all promos and imports. It was also the video version.

Sorry to word things in a confusing way. The end of the song "Sanctuary" bleeds onto the intro of "Bedtime Story" on the Bedtime Stories album.

The "album version" featured on the 2-track single has a slightly specially mixed intro, identical to the beginning of the edit.

Also, the Ray Of Light-era edits were not commercially released until GHV2, but they were the "hit" radio versions. The CD singles from Frozen to Don't Tell Me all featured the album versions. Her last CD Single (not maxi) American Life has the Radio Edit version.

Edited by Underground Dub on 11 July 2006 at 10:31am

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Posted: 11 July 2006 at 10:28am \| IP Logged

You're right too, a lot of them do use the proper edits. I should have been clearer...but the only single from Bedtime Stories to use the correct single version was Human Nature (Radio Version).

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Posted: 11 July 2006 at 10:33am \| IP Logged

Interesting, I don't own the 2 track "Bedtime Story" CD single and didn't remember it had the unblended album version. So I guess what they felt like doing depends on the album : )

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EdisonLite wrote:

Gloria Estefan - Oye Mi Canto

And how! I just received the promo CD to obtain the single mix and I can't believe how different it is to the album version! Remixed by Keith Cohen...I love it.

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Cool, I think many of us know that feeling when we get such surprises, so we share your joy ; )

Thanks for the refresher posts! I realize that during the years we discussed, the album vs. edit thing on Madonna's cd singles was more of a 50-50 thing : )

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