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Posted: 18 October 2008 at 8:20am | IP Logged Quote abagon

MILLI VANILLI - "Girl I'm Gonna Miss You"

The actual commercial 45 running time is (4:23), the listed time is "4:19" on the record label (Arista AS 1-9870)
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ok.....i don't know why they do these kind of things.....but it's very annoying......my commercial 45 of the milli vanilli song "girl i'm gonna miss you" issued as arista 9870, states a run time of 4:19 but like abagon notes above, really runs 4:23...that's not a big deal because we see that often enough....what really gets me going is that the version found on the promo cd single has the oboe break from 3:16 to 3:23 in the wrong channel......the 45 has it in the left channel while the promo cd has it in the right channel.....i will pose this question to our illustrious panel....why would they go through trouble of doing this.....the responses i'm sure will be numerous.......

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Posted: 03 July 2010 at 11:40am | IP Logged Quote Brian W.

Could it just be that the channels are reversed??

But I share your frustration, especially with the Milli Vanilli singles. There are at least three different mixes out there of "All or Nothing" and at least three different mixes of "Dreams to Remember." Very aggravating.
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Posted: 04 July 2010 at 6:13am | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast

It's just a L/R channel reversal, not a new mix. If I
remember correctly, most, if not all, of the tracks on the
Hits That Shook The World promo sampler have their L/R
channels reversed. It's a known issue with the Milli
Vanilli hits.
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Posted: 04 July 2010 at 7:47am | IP Logged Quote edtop40

hey crap....since you made that comment i will have to review all the tracks from that promo cd compilation again for compliance........but, btw......the ONLY difference regarding the channel switching is during that one segment from 3:16 to 3:23, the oboe break.....the rest of the track in identical.....so if your theory is accurate, the entire song's channels would be reversed, no....i will review all 5 tracks from that promo cd after my holiday vacation....enjoy the great weather all....

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So...
I find Milli Vanilli's discography to be very confusing for an artist that came
out in 1988.

On my version of the full length CD "Girl You Know It's True," the song "I'm
Gonna Miss You" (titled that way) is listed as 4:19, but runs 4:23. My
version is ARCD-8592 like what's listed in the database, has a 1988/1989
copyright date, and has US designations all over it, such as stating
"Manufactured in USA for Arista Records" (so it's not an import).

The problem is that the database says that the version of "I'm Gonna Miss
You" on Arista 8592 runs 3:57 like the original vinyl LP. Pretty sure that my
4:23 version is the 45 version which appears to have been switched on to
the CD at some point.

Were there 2 pressings under the same catalog number?

All of the other Milli Vanilli "hits" on this CD seem to match what's listed in
the db.
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Posted: 08 March 2017 at 7:13am | IP Logged Quote Santi Paradoa

Mine also runs 4:23. I never noticed that before. So maybe this is the 45 version.

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Posted: 08 March 2017 at 8:20am | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast

I have four different pressings of the Girl You Know It's True CD.

I found four different suffixes for the matrix number, which I've detailed below. I didn't include the various record club pressings, which all match one of the four.

Matrix number: "-1" "-2" "-3" "-4"
Girl You Know It's True   4:12.7 4:13.1 4:12.7 4:12.7
Baby Don't Forget My Number   6:28.3 4:16.6 4:16.6 4:16.6
More Than You'll Ever Know   4:00.1 4:32.1 4:32.1 4:32.1
Blame It On The Rain   4:19.3 4:19.2 4:19.2 4:19.2
Take It As It Comes   3:41.6 4:15.4 4:15.4 4:15.4
It's Your Thing   3:51.4   3:51.4 3:51.4 3:51.5
Dreams To Remember   3:54.5   3:54.5 3:54.5 3:54.5
All Or Nothing   3:17. 1 3:17.1 3:17.1 3:17.1
I'm Gonna Miss You   3:57.6   3:57.6 3:57.6 4:24.3
Girl You Know It's True (N.Y. Subway Extended Mix)   6:29.2 6:27.5 6:29.3 6:29.3
Total CD playing time: 44:15 43:09 43:09 43:36

It doesn't display cleanly here, but you get the idea.

Edited by crapfromthepast on 08 March 2017 at 8:30am


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Posted: 08 March 2017 at 8:56am | IP Logged Quote JL328

Wow. Well, mine has a 4 in the matrix number so that's consistent with
what you're saying. It's the only one that has the 45 version of "I'm
Gonna Miss You," it seems.

But Ron, if I'm reading your chart right,, are you saying that the original
pressing has a 6:28 version of "Baby Don't Forget My Number"? That's
not in the db either and I don't know that I'm familiar with it. Was that
version also on the vinyl LP or the cassette?

I knew the Milli Vanilli catalog was confusing but this is starting to hit
next level.
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Posted: 08 March 2017 at 9:05am | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast

I hadn't dug into what was on the LP. I have a copy with "RE-1" in the matrix number of the A-side (not on the B-side), so there's more than one LP pressing out there. The RE-1 printed times roughly match the "-2" CD pressing, except that "More Than You'll Ever Know" has a printed time of 5:30 on the RE-1 LP. Don't know what's actually on the vinyl, since I've never played it.

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Posted: 09 March 2017 at 11:43am | IP Logged Quote JL328

I'd be curious to know if that 6:28 CD album version of "Baby Don't
Forget My Number" has appeared anywhere else. The lead 12"
version was the Extended Subway Mix and runs about 7:35 and the
other versions on the 12" single are all under 6 minutes. Discogs
doesn't seem to show a 6:28 version (or anything close) on any of the
dozens of US and foreign releases for that song.
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Posted: 09 March 2017 at 11:54am | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast

I have a Canadian compilation called Big Hits '89 (PolyTel, 1989), which featured the LP versions on all 14 of its songs. It included the 6:28 version of "Baby Don't Forget My Number", which rendered it pretty much useless for this song. The 6:28 version sounds nothing like the hit version, which is what I'd play on the radio or at live events.

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Posted: 09 March 2017 at 12:30pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

The 6:28 LP version is a slightly shorter version of the Extended Subway Mix. I'm not sure what they chopped out of the 7:35 12" version for the LP, but the mix is the same.

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Posted: 09 March 2017 at 5:24pm | IP Logged Quote torcan

crapfromthepast wrote:
I have a Canadian compilation
called Big Hits '89 (PolyTel, 1989), which
featured the LP versions on all 14 of its songs. It
included the 6:28 version of "Baby Don't Forget My
Number", which rendered it pretty much useless for
this song. The 6:28 version sounds nothing like the
hit version, which is what I'd play on the radio or at
live events.


My Canadian vinyl LP has the 6:28 version - was the
"hit" version ever pressed onto the LP - Canadian or
US?

I agree with the track being "useless". I quickly ran
out and bought the 45 when I heard what was on the LP.
Radio rarely played the LP version, although I'm sure
I heard it on "Open House Party" one time - with John
Garabedian even mentioning how much different it was
from the 45 version.
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Posted: 19 February 2020 at 9:12pm | IP Logged Quote LunarLaugh

Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere on this
forum but I couldn't locate it in the search. I don't
know how exactly many mixes and remixes and edits exist
for "Girl I'm Gonna Miss You" but I'd imagine that
there are several, which seems to be typical of this
era in pop music.

I have a vinyl set of one of the "Casey's Top 40" shows
from 1989 (August 26-27) and it contains an edit of
"Girl I'm Gonna Miss You" that I assume is the single
edit but I'm not sure.

My CD pressing of the "Girl You Know It's True" album
(which is a Columbia House club pressing) contains the
4:24 length "Girl I'm Gonna Miss You" (as it's written
on the disc... on the sleeves it is "I'm Gonna Miss
You") which has one sax solo near the end before
repeating the pre-chorus and chorus.

The edit on my "Casey's Top 40" show has an
instrumental section with a different sax solo between
the first chorus and the 2nd verse and the pre-chorus
and chorus section is not repeated at the end. Instead
the song fades out on a second sax solo after the last
chorus (same sax solo on the CD I have).

Just curious to know if this edit was on the hit single
and if it can be located on CD?

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Posted: 19 February 2020 at 10:09pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Here are the details from the two promo CDs I have that contain the song:

"Girl I'm Gonna Miss You" (ASCD-9870)
1. Single Version (listed 4:19; actual 4:24)
2. Album Version (listed & actual 3:58)

The Single Version does not have a sax solo between the first chorus and second verse. The Album Version does have a sax solo before the second verse. According to Ron's post above, the Album Version appears on 3 out of the 4 pressings he owns (note the run time of 3:57 on all of them).

"Maximum Milli Vanilli/The Hits That Shook The World" (ASCD-9930)
1. All Or Nothing (listed 3:15; actual 3:16)
2. Blame It On The Rain (Single Version) (listed 4:06; actual 4:08)
3. Blame It On The Rain (Album Version) (listed 4:19; actual 4:17)
4. Girl I'm Gonna Miss You (listed 4:19; actual 4:24)
5. Baby Don't Forget My Number (listed 4:00; actual 4:02)
6. Girl You Know It's True (listed 3:48; actual 3:49)

With the exceptions of tracks 1 & 3, the rest of the tracks on this promo sampler are the single versions. Ron pointed out in another thread, however, that the left and right channels are swapped for most or all of these tracks compared with the vinyl 45s.

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Posted: 19 February 2020 at 10:12pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Oh, and as Ed pointed out earlier, it's actually an oboe and not a sax, but I won't correct my last post :)

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Sounded more like a soprano sax to me based on the
"brassier" timbres of some of the higher notes but I
suppose it could be an oboe.

They were obviously going for that Kenny G. sound there.

I do know one thing... whatever instrument it was,
neither Rob or Fab played it. ;)

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Posted: 20 February 2020 at 12:28pm | IP Logged Quote Loveland

abagon wrote:
MILLI VANILLI - "Girl I'm Gonna Miss You"

The actual commercial 45 running time is (4:23), the listed time is "4:19" on the record label (Arista AS 1-9870)


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Thank you, gentlemen! A saxophone it is.

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