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PopArchivist MusicFan
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Posted: 17 July 2019 at 10:05pm | IP Logged
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Paul,
Is Whitburn ever going to rank by year the 1900-1940 songs similar to the 1940-1954 book and 1955-2016 annual. I was asking since the Pop Century book had the first 40 songs ranked. Even if its just a small book would be rather fascinating to assemble since it was not done for the 1900-1940 book you released just recently.
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Paul Haney MusicFan
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Posted: 18 July 2019 at 5:45am | IP Logged
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PopArchivist wrote:
Paul,
Is Whitburn ever going to rank by year the 1900-1940 songs
similar to the 1940-1954 book and 1955-2016 annual. I was
asking since the Pop Century book had the first 40 songs
ranked. Even if its just a small book would be rather
fascinating to assemble since it was not done for the
1900-1940 book you released just recently. |
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Honestly, I don't think he's even thought about it. I
sure can mention it to him though!
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thecdguy MusicFan
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Posted: 15 August 2019 at 4:59am | IP Logged
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Paul,
Would you know if Joel has ever considered doing a book
for the separate Sales and Airplay charts of the Hot
100? I always loved looking at those charts and
comparing them to the main Hot 100 chart, especially in
the late 80's/early 90's. I have an older edition of
"Top Pop Singles" where the songs had their sales and
airplay peaks listed and thought it would be great if
there was a chronological listing of the Sales and
Airplay #1's like there is in the back of the Pop
Singles books for the Hot 100 #1's.
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jebsib MusicFan
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Posted: 19 August 2019 at 8:23am | IP Logged
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FYI -
There are a couple of important typos in the "Top 200 of All Time" listing in
this edition: All About That Bass' "Weeks in Top 40" is incorrect and rockstar's
"Weeks on Chart & in the Top 40" are wrong and affect its overall position.
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Scanner MusicFan
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Posted: 21 August 2019 at 1:23pm | IP Logged
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I would like to see the Sales and Airplay peaks return
to the book as well. If the song did not actually reach
the Hot 100, the peak number should include that - not
just note it off to the side.
I personally find no value to the non-Hot 100 hits.
They seem to be determined subjectively and take away
space from including other actual data for songs/records
that did reach or bubbled under the Hot 100.
Edited by Scanner on 21 August 2019 at 1:23pm
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Paul Haney MusicFan
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Posted: 22 August 2019 at 4:09am | IP Logged
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jebsib wrote:
FYI -
There are a couple of important typos in the "Top 200 of
All Time" listing in
this edition: All About That Bass' "Weeks in Top 40" is
incorrect and rockstar's
"Weeks on Chart & in the Top 40" are wrong and affect its
overall position. |
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Thanks for those corrections! All of that data is
entered by hand and I was just coming off major eye
surgery when I worked on that section. BTW, although the
weeks are incorrect, it does not affect either song's
overall ranking (the numbers are correct in the decade
section).
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Paul Haney MusicFan
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Posted: 22 August 2019 at 4:10am | IP Logged
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thecdguy wrote:
Paul,
Would you know if Joel has ever considered doing a book
for the separate Sales and Airplay charts of the Hot
100? I always loved looking at those charts and
comparing them to the main Hot 100 chart, especially in
the late 80's/early 90's. I have an older edition of
"Top Pop Singles" where the songs had their sales and
airplay peaks listed and thought it would be great if
there was a chronological listing of the Sales and
Airplay #1's like there is in the back of the Pop
Singles books for the Hot 100 #1's. |
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No, we've never really considered such a book. Not sure
how much demand there would be.
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Paul Haney MusicFan
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Posted: 22 August 2019 at 4:13am | IP Logged
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Scanner wrote:
I would like to see the Sales and
Airplay peaks return
to the book as well. If the song did not actually reach
the Hot 100, the peak number should include that - not
just note it off to the side.
I personally find no value to the non-Hot 100 hits.
They seem to be determined subjectively and take away
space from including other actual data for songs/records
that did reach or bubbled under the Hot 100. |
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Thanks for the feedback. Due to major staff cutbacks, we
stopped researching the sales and airplay charts at some
point around 2005. Doubt that info will ever return.
Most of our readers seem to enjoy the non-Hot 100
listings. We may have to take them out eventually as the
books are getting too big for one volume to handle.
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jebsib MusicFan
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This book was phenomenal. Love the thicker paper - makes the book fatter,
but more majestic, more resilient to damage.
Love having digital (portable) copies of these tomes. Any plans for a PDF
version?
Edited by jebsib on 22 August 2019 at 7:28am
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Paul Haney MusicFan
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Posted: 22 August 2019 at 9:03am | IP Logged
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jebsib wrote:
This book was phenomenal. Love the
thicker paper - makes the book fatter,
but more majestic, more resilient to damage.
Love having digital (portable) copies of these tomes.
Any plans for a PDF
version? |
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Thanks for the kind words. Glad we went with the thicker
paper too!
No plans for a digital version at this time. Most of our
customers still prefer the printed books.
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jebsib MusicFan
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Posted: 22 August 2019 at 10:45am | IP Logged
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Paul - I notice that "Hot 100 Charts: The 2000s" is being reprinted in October.
I purchased the book when it first came out and was a little disappointed that
the printers got many of the charts so dark. (Trust me, I understand the
challenge of reprinting those colors charts with the tiny text & photos that BB
was publishing last decade)
My question is - Might there be a chance this new printing will be a tad lighter?
Or is it a direct copy of the last run? (I wouldn't mind double-dipping if the
book was a bit more legible this time around.)
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Scanner MusicFan
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Posted: 22 August 2019 at 1:52pm | IP Logged
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Did you ever think of producing two volumes instead of
one for some of your larger Pop books? The Hot 100 and
Billboard 200 books are becoming rather cumbersome to
read and carry.
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Paul Haney MusicFan
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Posted: 22 August 2019 at 2:21pm | IP Logged
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jebsib wrote:
Paul - I notice that "Hot 100 Charts: The
2000s" is being reprinted in October.
I purchased the book when it first came out and was a
little disappointed that
the printers got many of the charts so dark. (Trust me, I
understand the
challenge of reprinting those colors charts with the tiny
text & photos that BB
was publishing last decade)
My question is - Might there be a chance this new
printing will be a tad lighter?
Or is it a direct copy of the last run? (I wouldn't mind
double-dipping if the
book was a bit more legible this time around.) |
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Funny you should mention that, as I just got done
inserting all new, lighter copies of the charts! We
lightened up every single chart in the book.
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Paul Haney MusicFan
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Posted: 22 August 2019 at 2:24pm | IP Logged
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Scanner wrote:
Did you ever think of producing two
volumes instead of
one for some of your larger Pop books? The Hot 100 and
Billboard 200 books are becoming rather cumbersome to
read and carry. |
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Yes. We talk about it often. The problem is 2 volumes
means double the printing costs. Plus, not too many would
want to pay for 2 volumes of the same book. The current
album book is about as big as we can go, so not sure what
the future of that one will look like.
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jebsib MusicFan
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Paul Haney wrote:
Funny you should mention that, as I just got done
inserting all new, lighter copies of the charts! We
lightened up every single chart in the book. |
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Hooray! Thank you - Here I come!
Edited by jebsib on 23 August 2019 at 5:05am
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RoknRobnLoxley MusicFan
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Paul Haney - how about this idea for a new Record Research book?
The Year End Charts, all in 1 volume:
Singles & Albums.
Pop, Country, RnB.
Billboard, Cashbox, Record World.
1950 - 2000.
Sounds fab to me!! It'd only be about 306 + 276 + 192 = 774 charts. Hmmm... might need to break it up into 2 volumes though. OK, do Volume 1 for Billboard (306 charts), and Volume 2 for Cashbox + Record World (468 charts). It'll be terrific !!
Please run it by the Big Guy.
Take my money, please... Cheers !!
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jebsib MusicFan
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Posted: 23 August 2019 at 5:40pm | IP Logged
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Oooh! Official Year-End (or DECADE-END) Charts ARE an interesting thought!
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Paul Haney MusicFan
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To be honest, Joel has never shown much interest in the
year-end charts. However, I can certainly talk to him
about it!
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RoknRobnLoxley MusicFan
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It would be an easy book to produce. No research, just scan the existing chart pages, and boom, there it is! Easy profit for all of yall...
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jebsib MusicFan
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The only drawback on Year End Charts are those odd occasions when huge #1
hits fall between the cracks and wind up never appearing on the year ends
(Happened a lot in the 60s and 70s)
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