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my commercial cassingle issued as capitol 44908 contains a non described version as the A-side which runs 5:39 and is identical to the full length cd/album version running 5:39 from the cd
(S) (5:40) Capitol 98876 Duran Duran
.....the db states that the dj edit running 4:39 is the same as the 45 version.....pat, is it possible you're referencing the promo 45 and NOT the commercial 45 for your data....or is this another instance where the vinyl 45 and the cassingles have different versions and running times on them.....can anyone confirm this.....
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Ed - there was a "for jukeboxes only" 45 for Ordinary World (on Capitol 56945), and yes, the listed time is 4:41. There was no "promo" 45.
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so, the commercial 45 was NOT the same catalog number as the cassingle...so that should be noted in the db....that the official single/cassingle version is the same as the full length cd/album version and not the 45 version.....
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edtop40 wrote:
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Capitol/EMI treated the "For Jukeboxes Only!" series, in which the vast majority of its 45s were released from about 1992 onward, as a distinct series from their regular commercially released cassette/CD singles. The "For Jukeboxes Only!" 45s generally have different A-side/B-side combinations and different catalog numbers. They often couple the A-sides of two distinct cassette/CD singles, and actually used their own unique catalog numbering system for most of the series' existence. How common it was for the versions of songs used to not match the commercially released cassette/CD singles, which I know is the main item of interest on this board, I'm not sure.
In the post-1992 era, Capitol/EMI 45s did release a few scattered 45s which weren't part of the "For Jukeboxes Only" series, and did parallel commercially released cassette/CD singles. These were few and far between, though. The few Capitol/EMI 45s from the mid/late '90s that were released with picture sleeves were typically among them.
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Ran across a shorter edit for this and I'm trying to
figure out where it came from.
For the true "single edit", starting at 1:20 on the
downbeat in the middle of the word "survive", there's a
12-beat break with some acoustic guitar and hi-hat before
the vocals kick in.
On Hot Hits Pop Vol. 7, the break starting at 1:20
is shortened to only 4 beats, and eliminates the acoustic
guitar/hi-hat part before going back into the vocals. It
also fades about 8 seconds earlier than the true "single
edit". This version runs 4:27.
Anyone know where this shorter edit originated?
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I have promo CD single DPRO-79588 with 3 versions:
Cut 1 Single Edit (4:41 listed and actual)
Cut 2 Acoustic (5:05 listed; 5:06 actual)
Cut 3 LP (5:39 listed; 5:36 actual)
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I just received another US promo CD single for "Ordinary World," and it contains the version that Ron describes above. The section from 1:23 to 1:30 of the 4:41 "Single Edit" is edited out, and it fades earlier. Two other unique details about this promo are that it contains an "AC Edit" as track 2, and it's a 2-CD set. The second disc in the set is the Decade greatest hits package that came out a few years earlier. I assume the tracks on the Decade CD are identical to the retail version, as the disc has the same catalog number (CDP7 93178 2) and track list.
DPRO-79607
1. Single Edit (listed 4:28; actual 4:27)
2. AC Edit (listed 4:28; actual 4:30)
3. Acoustic Version (listed 5:05; actual 5:07)
4. LP Version (listed & actual 5:39)
Doing some comparisons between the tracks, I noticed the "Single Edit" is not actually an edit of the LP version. It's a unique mix throughout. The most notable difference is that this mix has an electric guitar after the second chorus, whereas the LP version has an acoustic guitar.
The "AC Edit" is an edit of the LP version, although there's a crossfade at one of the "edit" points and not just a straight cut.
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Thanks for the info, aaronk. Interesting that they packaged these edits with the entire Decade CD.
If I recall correctly, one of the "Electric Barbarella" promos sandwiched a ton of previous hits between its Edit and Album Versions.
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I wasn't working in radio quite yet when "Ordinary World" was released, so I don't know the back story on that promo. My guess is that it was a reminder to programmers about all the hits they previously had, while also giving radio stations a nice CD copy to use for their gold library. Their previous album Liberty from 1990 didn't yield any top 40 hits, so Decade from 1989 served as a nice career summary.
Edited by aaronk on 26 December 2017 at 12:10pm
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aaronk wrote:
Doing some comparisons between the tracks, I noticed the
"Single Edit" is not actually an edit of the LP version. It's a unique mix
throughout. The most notable difference is that this mix has an electric guitar
after the second chorus, whereas the LP version has an acoustic guitar.
The "AC Edit" is an edit of the LP version, although there's a crossfade at one
of the "edit" points and not just a straight cut. |
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The Single Edit(with the short acoustic passage) was what was used for the
video, the electric guitar solo after the final verse is moved back to after the
second chorus and the ad libs from acoustic solo on the LP are added.
Curious to hear the AC version.
Edited by radiofan16 on 27 December 2017 at 5:29am
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How common were the "For Jukeboxes Only"
45's in terms of them being available in
stores? I spent many hours in various
record stores in my area and never saw any
45's with that label on them. In fact, by
the time this song was on the charts,
pretty much all of the stores I went to
seemed to have stopped selling 45's
altogether. By that time, Cassette and CD
Singles had taken over as the main Singles
configurations.
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For being available in stores? I'd venture: never.
I subscribed to a record pool at the time, and I'd receive them in the mail as part of my subscription.
The early '90s had killed off the 45s almost entirely from all the stores I frequented back then. In Tucson, there was one little mom-and-pop shop that could order 45s for me, but they were ridiculously expensive (compared to the price of a used CD), and I only bought one or two from the shop. The "For Jukeboxes Only" 45s weren't available, even if I wanted to order them.
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thecdguy wrote:
How common were the "For Jukeboxes
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I bought a bunch from my mall store, The Wall, from
1993-1996. We were in a small town in New York but they
were part of a bigger chain -- though not sure if they
Trans World Entertainment had acquired them yet -- so I
suspect they had them available fairly widely.
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I also remember buying a "For Jukeboxes Only" 45 from a mall store in the mid '90s. I think it might have been "Dancing With Myself" by Billy Idol.
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I bought a bunch from my mall store, The Wall, from
1993-1996. We were in a small town in New York but
they
were part of a bigger chain -- though not sure if they
Trans World Entertainment had acquired them yet -- so
I
suspect they had them available fairly widely.[/QUOTE]
I worked for The Wall during the years you mentioned.
I don't remember seeing 45's come in to the warehouse
or seeing any in their stores, but it's entirely
possible I just didn't notice any the times I went.
Maybe the section they had of 45's were small enough
to the point where they didn't catch my attention. On
the other hand, by the 90's I don't remember seeing
very many 45's in Sam Goody or Tower Records, either.
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My experience with the "For Jukeboxes Only" 45s is that
they were an easy get. My friend who owned a record
store near Syracuse NY regularly got them in, ordered
them from his distributor at will and they were
basically the same price as other label's 45s. I've got
dozens of them.
Over the years I've also seen them in record stores in
Western New York and also the Toronto area. I always
thought they were easily available everywhere.
Go figure.
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The "For Jukeboxes Only" 45s were easy for us to get here
at Record Research. Our wholesaler stocked them all.
IIRC, most were Country hits at the time.
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