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Paul Haney
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EdisonLite wrote:
Does anyone who follows the Billboard
charts know why in the past couple years so many charts
(Country, Rock, AC, Dance, Christian...) have had #1s for
30-52 weeks, when this hardly ever happened before this
period? Is it due to streaming? a chart rule change at
Billboard?
As I look at the charts every Tuesday morning, I'd be
more shocked if, on the Dance chart, Marshmello's
"Happier" wasn't at #1 than if it was. 44 weeks so far -
I don't know why - and I really don't expect it to fall
soon. And I don't think it's really more popular than
other big dance songs from the past 10 (or 20) years.
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It's all in how the charts are compiled. The main genre
charts (R&B, Country, Dance, Rock) are strictly based on
where a song stands on the Hot 100, using the same
formula as the Hot 100. It's the main reason why we went
with Country Airplay chart as the main chart for our most
recent Country Singles book.
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Anyone under a certain age now streams music. Radio is - despite audience
levels in the millions each week - not the key way the General Public consumes
music anymore. This happened very quickly, and the streaming numbers are
so incredibly enormous that they overwhelm mp3 downloads and radio's
fractured genre reach.
Research has shown that people tend to listen to streamed songs for longer
periods of time than previously thought. Radio is also hanging onto their
songs longer than before, creating a perfect storm for songs to stay at the top
of the big charts forever.
Add to this, genres like "Dance" or "Rock" aren't as mainstream popular as
they used to be, so one or two lucky songs in their lane can stay at the top for
months.
While it can get tedious and borderline ridiculous (See Country's Meant to Be -
#1 for 50 weeks - not the kind of thing we grew up with via Casey Kasem
countdowns, etc), it is still technically accurate as these songs are the most
consumed singles in their given genre over these vast stretches of time.
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Well, it's official. "Old Town Road" logs its 17th
consecutive week at #1 on the Hot 100. A new record.
We'll see how long it stands!
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Paul Haney wrote:
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I predict that it will stand for at least 17 weeks.
Ha. I funny.
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Paul Haney wrote:
Well, it's official. "Old Town Road" logs its 17th
consecutive week at #1 on the Hot 100. A new record.
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I'm curious to see if it will fend off another challenger to the throne and strand another song at #2 for the 8th time....
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crapfromthepast wrote:
Paul Haney wrote:
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I predict that it will stand for at least 17 weeks.
Ha. I funny. |
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Pop Archivist say the future is ahead of you, the past is behind you. But the crapfromthepast will always remain...
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18 weeks now ... will it go for 19?
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Bellenger1981 wrote:
18 weeks now ... will it go for 19?
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Judging by the numbers, t looks like 19 weeks is all but
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Paul Haney wrote:
Bellenger1981 wrote:
18 weeks now ... will it go for 19?
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Judging by the numbers, t looks like 19 weeks is all but
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I hear Taylor Swift is dropping her album the 23rd of August. Old Town Road might make it the rest of the month but supposedly she has her sights set on knocking it out of #1...remember she dethroned Despacito with Look What You Made Me Do a few years back.
Additional Note: Bad Guy has 8 total weeks at #2. It needs to keep tagging along 3 more weeks and it will set that record for most weeks at #2 without hitting #1..
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Color me a bit disappointed. As a Mariah fan, I was
hoping she'd always have a share of that record. Oh
well, she held onto it for 24 years so I guess I can't
complain!
Oddly, the radio station I listen to just started
playing this about 6 weeks ago. I don't check
Billboard every week but was surprised when I came
back to it after several weeks that this song was
STILL No. 1.
It's not a bad song and I don't dislike it - but these
marathon runs at the top are surprising. I find it
hard to believe that any song could hold onto the top
spot for that long and still keep going - but here we
are and it's happening a lot more frequently.
I guess all records are made to be broken.
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torcan wrote:
It's not a bad song and I don't dislike it - but these
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Not really all that surprising in this day and age of video and streaming consumption, digital downloads and social media mems.
Back when Debbie Boone or Olivia Newton John got 10 weeks at #1 there wasn't an internet that factored in. There also wasn't a digital push just a 45 one to sell records. Those were considered marathon runs. If you look back it wasn't until I Always Love You in 1992 by Whitney Houston that a song made it past 11 weeks. The reason that song had a marathon run was the movie and it was simply Houston covering a Dolly Parton classic at the peak of her popularity (she could sing no wrong..)
The biggest #1 hits are usually the songs everyone talks about anyways or were a craze (Macarena anyone?).
I don't see 18 weeks at #1 out of the norm. From 2010-2018 only one song got to even 16 weeks. To survive on the Billboard Hot 100 at #1 this many weeks means your numbers have to be massive.
Plus Despacito and One Sweet Day did not have multiple challengers to fend off while Old Town Road had two Shawn Mendes hits and two Taylor Swift hits to fend off on top of Billie's Bad Guy, which has now been a massive hit on its own even though it cant get to #1.
To put it simply Old Town Road came out on top in a more difficult time era where any new Drake, Swift or hot new act (or old one think Jonas Brothers) can vault to #1 any given day of the week if they hit it just right at release time and push a video and digital downloads and streaming to the extreme.
It only surprises me that none of the #2's knocked it out of #1 yet.
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The AC chart (Strictly radio airplay) just had Maroon 5 stay at #1 for 33 weeks,
so it's not just Streaming. Culturally we are listening longer.
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Kind of makes you wonder if chart runs in the 60s & 70s
weren't artificially short. And back then stations didn't
have recurrent rotations for songs that had peaked...the
songs just dropped off and weren't played again for 6
months to a year when they became oldies (which back meant
1 or 2 gold tracks per hour so a given song didn't get
played much).
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19 weeks at No. 1. Will it make 20?
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Bellenger1981 wrote:
19 weeks at No. 1. Will it make 20?
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The raw numbers are starting to drop now. However, it
doesn't appear that anything is quite strong enough to
overtake it, at least for one more week. I predict it
gets to 20.
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19 weeks is enough to make it the clear pop winner of all time (I say this
because there were always chart fans who would argue that "Near You" by
Francis Craig or "Iris" by Goo Goo Dolls were longer pop chart toppers at 17
and 18 weeks respectively (During eras when Airplay lists had similar
perceived weight of importance)
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jebsib wrote:
19 weeks is enough to make it the clear pop winner of all time (I say this
because there were always chart fans who would argue that "Near You" by
Francis Craig or "Iris" by Goo Goo Dolls were longer pop chart toppers at 17
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Technically the original song was #1 for 1 week and the remix #1 for 18 weeks with Billy Ray Cyrus.
If not for the 90s airplay chart rules, Iris would have set the record a long time ago. Great song that deserved more than a #9 position once December 5, 1998 reset the charts to allow for airplay only hits.
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My sources tell me that the point totals for "Old Town
Road" and "Bad Guy" will be VERY close this week. Guess
we'll find out soon enough.
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PopArchivist wrote:
If not for the 90s airplay chart rules, Iris would
have set the record a long time ago. Great song that
deserved more than a #9 position once December 5, 1998
reset the charts to allow for airplay only hits.
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I seem to remember that Aerosmith's "I Don't Want To
Miss A Thing" was neck and neck with "Iris" on the
Airplay chart for at least several weeks, so I have to
wonder how many weeks "Iris" would have been #1 on the
Hot 100 if there had been a commercial single or if "I
Don't Want To Miss A Thing" had a single release
earlier than it did. Same thing with Celine Dion's "My
Heart Will Go On", which had a single release a few
months after it became an airplay hit. I'm sure it
would have had more than 2 weeks at #1 if it had a
commercial single right from the start.
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OK, I just heard this song for the first time over the
weekend (obviously, I don't really follow the charts much
anymore!), and for the life of me I don't see how this
could be the #1 song in the country for going on 5 months.
Was just kind of a "nothing" song to my ears...I didn't
hear anything special about it.
Can anyone give me a clue why this is such a big hit?
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