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I have the CD single of "Kiss Me" but not the album that contains it. Do they differ due to an edit or an early fade?
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The DJ promo single has a "radio remix" that radio played. The run time is (3:18), which I have on my Promo Only series. This is the only version I am familiar with.
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And I only have the commercial CD single, which isn't labeled as a radio remix, but also clocks in at 3:18. It does however say that it's featured in the movie "She's All That", which leads me to believe this is the later mix, but I'm not sure. Pat, do you (or anyone) know the differences between the commercial CD single, the promo single, and the album version?
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Nearly nine years later, and I can help answer some questions about this one. I managed to track down a promo CD and two different stock CD singles. One of the other radio guys here can hopefully confirm if any of the stock singles were also sent out promotionally, because the promo CD I have does not have the familiar "Radio Remix" that is on the stock singles. To date, I've not been able to find a specific promo CD with the remix.
Promo CD (no catalog number)
1. Edit (listed & actual 2:59)
2. Album Version (listed 3:27 & actual 3:29)
Stock CD single #1 (barcode is 0 9870-79101-2 8; advertises "She's All That" on the front cover)
1. "Kiss Me" (non-described version, but matches "Radio Remix" on maxi-CD) (listed & actual 3:18)
2. "Love"
Stock CD single #2 (barcode is 0 80688 59042 0; no mention of "She's All That" on the inserts)
1. "Kiss Me" (Radio Remix)* (listed & actual 3:18)
2. "Kiss Me" (Album Edit) (listed & actual 2:59)
3. "Sad But True"
4. "Kiss Me" (Live in Hollywood 2.12.98) (listed & actual 3:28)
I should mention that nowhere are any of these three CDs does it say "promo only" nor do any of them have catalog numbers. The only giveaway that two of them are (or at least were intended as) stock CD singles is because of the bar code on the back.
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As a long-time music collector also working in radio, I always found
myself paying especially close attention whenever a small and/or indie
label's song became a CHR hit. Here's what I remember about "Kiss Me".
The song's label, Squint Entertainment, was a new, very small subsidiary
of the long-established Christian Contemporary Music (CCM) Word
Entertainment operation, started by musician and songwriter Steve Taylor.
The band released their self-titled debut CD in 1997.
Aaron, I'm just about positive that the non-numbered, promo CD single
you just picked up was the earliest-released of the three CD singles
you've listed, was solely intended for CCM-formatted stations, and was
very likely pressed up/sent out to CCM radio during 1997. That would
then place its issue date at least 16 months before than the eventual May
1999 Hot 100 peak position of #2, for the later "Radio Remix".
To support their debut CD, Sixpence None The Richer had been touring
with several other bands. Ones who'd not just had CCM success, but
mainstream hits as well, such as 10,000 Maniacs and the Proclaimers. As
a result, their "Kiss Me" track started getting increased, favorable
exposure outside of the Christian genre, and seeing CD sales numbers
increasing with each passing week.
At this point, Squint began to think that they might be able to make some
Top 40 headway with "Kiss Me". Of course, time was of the essence, so a
"Radio Remix" was both created and mailed out to CHR, ASAP, and was
released on 8-11-1998. The WB's teen drama "Dawson's Creek" featured
the song in two of its late 1998 episodes, and also was included in the
early 1999 film "She's All That", as noted on one of Aaron's two CD singles
above. We never received anything but UPC symbol hole-punched stock
CD single copies at our station. My best recollection is that the 4-track CD
single came into the station first. All of this additional multimedia
exposure was obviously quite instrumental to its eventual Top 40 success.
I sort of equate this situation to Everything But The Girl's "Missing", where
a 1995 Todd Terry remix of the 1994 non-hit release gave the song a
second life, also reaching a peak of #2 BB in early 1996. But in this case
Atlantic, as a far larger label operation than Squint, could quickly produce
and distribute new promo CD singles. Whereas the tiny Sprint operation
clearly found themselves in virgin territory here. I wouldn't have blamed
Squint one bit, if they decided to "hedge their bets", produce stock CD
singles only, send "punched UPC" copies to radio, and then have all the
other copies be sellable at retail. Money was surely far more of an issue at
Squint than Atlantic. Heck, If my operation didn't have capital to burn,
that's exactly what I would've done. This last part is just an educated
guess.
If anybody has any further "Kiss Me" insights here, please share!
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So is the album edit contained on the promo cd on discogs considered a hit version?
https://www.discogs.com/Sixpence-None-The-Richer-Kiss-Me/mas ter/26977
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I would not consider it a hit version, no. The only version I ever heard on top 40 radio is the "Radio Remix" found on the CD maxi and 2-track CD single with "She's All That" advertised on the front.
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aaronk wrote:
| I would not consider it a hit version, no. The only version I ever heard on top 40 radio is the "Radio Remix" found on the CD maxi and 2-track CD single with "She's All That" advertised on the front. |
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Then I will note it as an album edit only. Thanks!
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Anyone know where you can find the Lenny B Remix Edit on CD?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODUv2-unGbY
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Are you sure that's not a dance cover? It's certainly not the original vocal take. I'm not even positive it's the same singer. Those dance covers were common in the late '90s, especially when the record companies decided against releasing a CD single for the hit version. I think the hope was that consumers would settle for a cover version (or not realize it was a cover in the first place). For instance, "Kiss Me" had a dance cover in 1999 by Level Eleven: https://www.discogs.com/Level-Eleven-Kiss-Me/master/1317319.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVDUxuZyOUc "Walkin' On The Sun" by Chorus. Clearly meant to mimic Smash Mouth as closely as possible but with a dance beat.
https://www.discogs.com/Smack-Walkin-On-The-Sun-Pop-Club-Mix es/release/661997
This cover of "Walkin' On The Sun" is credited to Smack, again, possibly hoping to confuse consumers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i7NT97IXsM "Crush" by Bianca from 1998, which is a house version cover of the Jennifer Paige song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO3tbEf_tz0 "Uninvited" by Deja Vu was an Alanis imitator that I'm positive I saw on the shelves at my local record store.
There were just SO many dance covers out at this time!
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"Kiss Me (Lenny B.'s Radio Edit)" is track 1 on a 1999 CD single by Terri Lawrence on Navigate Records.
It's not by Sixpence None The Richer.
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Aha!! I knew it. Thanks for uncovering the correct artist.
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https://www.discogs.com/Terri-Lawrence-Kiss-Me-Dance-Remixes /release/7450474
There's the Terri Lawrence CD single, in case anyone wants more info or wishes to purchase the Lenny B. Radio Edit.
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Deja Vu also covered "My Heart Will Go On," "Un-break My Heart," "I Don't Want To Miss A Thing," and "Don't Speak," among others.
https://www.discogs.com/artist/479276-Deja-Vu-2
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I got fooled Ron and Aaron bad me.
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There was an entire label dedicated to putting out knock-off versions of the late-'90s radio hits that weren't available as commercial CD singles: Under The Cover Records
Here's a partial list of CD singles they released from 1997-1999:
Lovefool - Casual Sweaters
One Headlight - Waterfalls
Butterfly Kisses - Carousel
Fly - Sweet Rain
Walkin' On The Sun - Smack
Tubthumping - Chucklebutt
All My Life - Krazi & Judo
Torn - Natural Innocence
Closing Time - SoKaotic
Be Careful - UC All Stars
Iris - Granny's Goodies
Flagpole Sitta - Hairy Canary
Save Tonight - Dancin' Zzzz
Why Don't You Get A Job? - Octagon Ozzie
Steal My Sunshine - Lint
The goal was to get these singles placed in stores in roughly the same part of the alphabet that one would expect to find the hit version, if the hit version were available as a CD single.
They were uniformly terrible. All the music was done by a guy named Adam Marano (I assume that's his real name).
It's been 20 years since the demise of Under The Cover Records; I think I need to dust these off and feature them all on the radio show. Maybe for pledge drive...
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[QUOTE=crapfromthepast] They were uniformly terrible. All the music was done by a guy named Adam Marano (I assume that's his real name).
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How could you get his biggest of them all, Clueless?
He was one half of Collage.
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crapfromthepast wrote:
There was an entire label
dedicated to putting out knock-off versions of the late-
'90s radio hits that weren't available as commercial CD
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Sounds like a latter-day version of "Hit" records, a 60s
era label that put out cover versions of semi-current
hits.
Around that same time frame the station I was at had a
Saturday night mix show, we got monthly discs of dance
mixes of current hits from several sources. Nothing we
specifically subscribed to, they just started showing up.
Some were legit remixes by the correct artists, other
were covers. Most of the covers were quite good, and had
singers that sounded a lot like the original artists. I
wish I could remember the names of these (probably long
defunct) services..."On The Radio" or something similar
comes to mind as one.
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You have to give the Under The Cover guys some credit for
coming up with those "artist" names. Some of those
singles even managed to make the Billboard charts!
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