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David:
If you click the "profile" button under any of my posts, you'll see a link to my e-mail address. (I'm declining to print it here to avoid detection from spammers who scour websites using sophisticated software programs to collect e-mail addresses.) I'll also send you a direct e-mail request for the mp3s. Thanks!
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iTunes offers different material in difference countries. In the Canadian store, the "You'll Never Walk Alone (The EMI Years)" box set is there.
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Well, thanks to my friend, David, I was able to compare his U.S. vinyl 45 copy of "I'll Be There" to the version found on the CD box set and I'm sorry to report that the box set version does not fully match the vinyl 45. Everything is the same up through the 1:56 mark when the strings come in during the instrumental bridge on both the 45 and CD. However, at the 2:00 point the strings stop playing on the CD, while the strings keep playing for nearly :04 longer on the 45! Otherwise, everything else about the two versions appear to be identical, other than the CD running about :23 longer in length. So unfortunately, the search for the true U.S. 45 version of "I'll Be There" on CD continues. :-(
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Todd Ireland wrote:
| However, at the 2:00 point the strings stop playing on the CD, while the strings keep playing for nearly :04 longer on the 45! |
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Good catch!! I never would've been able to catch that one (and me, being younger than most or all on here, should be the one with the sharpest ears?).
However on another small note, about 20 seconds into the song when Gerry sings "i'll be there when all your dreams are broken" the "i'll be there" portion of that line is a different vocal take between this new box set version (which i guess should now be listed as a 3rd version of the song), and the original Laurie 45 version.
By the way, the version on the new box set does match the version from the A's. B's. And EP's set that John Gallagher sent me....except with some big speed differences. The worst part about this is they ALMOST got it right...and maybe they think no one will notice... but now, we really want the hit version on cd. Maybe it would have to take a label like ERIC records to put out the proper version.....
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Allow me to input after much research on this song, that the best source of the U.S. 45 version of "I'll Be There" is the Laurie album of the same title (Laurie LLP 2030). Original Laurie 45s are distorted to hell, which is not the case with the LP, which offers the same version. If anyone needs a nice, clean copy of this, email me and I'll gladly send it to you.
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TomDiehl1 wrote:
Todd Ireland wrote:
| However, at the 2:00 point the strings stop playing on the CD, while the strings keep playing for nearly :04 longer on the 45! |
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Good catch!! I never would've been able to catch that one (and me, being younger than most or all on here, should be the one with the sharpest ears?).
However on another small note, about 20 seconds into the song when Gerry sings "i'll be there when all your dreams are broken" the "i'll be there" portion of that line is a different vocal take between this new box set version... |
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Sonofagun, you're right about the different vocal at the :17 mark! However, I only notice the vocal difference during the word "I'll", which comes in one beat quicker on the 45 than on the CD. To me, the volume also sounds noticeably louder before and after this inserted edit. So it looks like your sharp young ears aren't letting you down after all, Tom.
Now this begs the question... Why on earth would the record label go through the trouble of splicing one re-recorded word in the above mentioned spot???
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Revisiting this one... the very first line between the 45
and the box set versions of the song are in fact sung
differently... someone somewhere did a lot of editing to
this recording to come up with the various versions of
the song that are around... good lord, I thought it was
going to be easy...
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Pat,
You may want to update the database for this song to
indicate the actual 45 time is (2:51).
And the last entry "British Pop Vol 4" I guess should note
"45 version but :19 longer"
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Hmmm, we may need one more minor update on this one. I got
the (2:51) 45 time from earlier in this thread.
But I have in hand what appears to be an original pressing
and it runs (2:49) .. .as does a Youtube post of the 45.
My deadwax info is: RK4M - 5661 - - 1B (machine stamped)
Does anyone have one that really does run (2:51)?
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Wow, this topic got buried fast! The board has been
hoppin'!
I just accidentally answered my own question. The 45
really does run (2:51) .. I didn't realize that to hear it
you have to crank the volume way up as the last 2 seconds
are very very faint.
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All my dubs from various CDs are all 3:15 or 3:16 including one CDR from a collector who said it was a dub of the US 45. It looks like I need to keep looking. I wish Eric could tackle this one.
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Let me put this to rest for once and for all. The Laurie single is overmodulated, (albeit pressed by RCA) making it useless. The same take is on the I'LL BE THERE Laurie album, but is not overmodulated. Here's a link to a dub of the LP up on my cloud.Gerry & The Pacemakers - I'll Be There [Laurie 3279, 45 rpm, 1964, mono">
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Thanks for that. Sounds OK to me. Good to hear correct version.
Edited by C J Brown on 06 March 2019 at 6:52pm
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Just FYI, sometime in April we'll be announcing a new Hit Parade CD which will feature this song in its correct U.S. 45 version, and in stereo. And this is not "DES" stereo we are known for, it is mixed from the 4-track.
The best source for the original mono is still the Laurie LP Tom mentions above.
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I will get in line. Thanks Mark
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The info on the upcoming CD release with the correct U.S. 45 version of this song is now posted here. The entire disc is stereo including this track.
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