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no....i sold my cd's after i got the correct 45 versions......sorry i can't help further on this one...
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I do hear what elcoleccionista is hearing -- it's in the right ear, sort of a "scratching" sound in one ear, like a pool cue moving across a chalkboard, at about 2:38 -- but for the life of me I can't find my album of Control, so I can't contribute much further to this discussion, as I don't think I have the vinyl 45.
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what is the source are you listening to???
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edtop40 wrote:
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The UK two-disc "Design of a Decade." It's this little "whoosh" or "scrape" sound effect in the right channel at about 2:38, after she says, "Oh, you nasty boys." You can probably only hear it with headphones.
I have this same edit on a Jimmy Jam/Terry Lewis promo sampler, though the final note of the song is truncated, and the sound effect is on there too.
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Yes, Brian, I do hear what you are talking about. The funny thing is that TM Century has the true 45 version on one of the newer discs in their library, but it's transferred from vinyl. I wondered why they didn't just simply edit down the LP version to create the single, and this must be the reason why.
Do you detect other mix differences? I haven't been able to find any...
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elcoleccionista wrote:
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First of all, NICE CATCH! I certainly had never noticed that when I was creating my own single version. And while it is true that you can't exactly create the 45 version from the LP, if you take the very last "boys" of the song, and paste it in place of the one with the sound effect, you can come very close to having the 45 version.
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aaronk wrote:
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No, but like I said, I've misplaced my Control CD, so I haven't done a thorough comparison yet.
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sorry...on my import greatest hits cd i don't hear that sound effect......
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so.......except for this scratching sound at the 2:38 mark, are the 45 and the version from the import greatest hits cd identical????........i'm confused...
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I will do another round tonight comparing the 45 to the "Design" version, but the first time I did, yes, that is the only difference I noticed.
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Johann, I thought you didn't have the original 45, only the reissue.
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I don't, sorry if I confused you, I'll rephrase:
Tonight I will compare again what I hear on my reissue "Nasty (Remix) / Pleasure Principle" 7 inch single to what I do on the "Design of a Decade" CD.
But I am pretty sure that was the only difference. I will confirm.
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Just done, that is the only difference between both versions.
Aaron, you are right, good one! I tried and it almost worked for me, not 100% because in the section where I had to paste the remainder of the track, she starts the "N" from "Nastyyyy Boys..." a little before the actual beat, and I couldn't go backwards to look for the cut, because that "wooosh" sound is right next to the start of the "n" sound.
So if you become a real pain in the a... (as I am with these things) you can notice that partially missing initial "n" sound.
I then gave it a less "anal" listen, and unless you know what the "problem" is, I believe it may go unnoticed.
Did I make sense? It may be time for me to go to the gym for a while : p
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Oh, I understand now. Your reissue 45 that says (remix) does NOT have the "whoosh" sound, right?
I'm still hoping someone will send me an MP3 of the original vinyl 45 to confirm for myself.
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That's right.
From earlier posts on the thread, Paul Esch and Edtop40 seem to have original vinyl 45's of "Nasty".
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brian...i will send my commercial 45 copy tonight to you.....
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aaron.......thx for pointing that slight difference.........thx for the mp3 of the sections........i just reviewed it again.........the reason i didn't hear it the first time is because i do my a/b'ing by listening to the 45 leading and the cd version following........when i toggle back and forth between them i compare the 45 versus the cd and at that point it's so fast that i couldn't get back fast enough.....BUT.........when i listen to the cd version leading the 45 version it's obvious......the import cd version has this swoosh while the commercial 45 version does not......aaron........a question..........can the true 45 be extracted from the other components of the full cd version???........if not can we use the actual 45 spliced in to make it happen..........what do you think.........edtop40
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brian do you still want a copy of the actual commercial 45???
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edtop40 wrote:
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Yes, please, Ed. Thank you.
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For anyone who is trying to create the true 45 version of "Nasty," I have a CD source where you can get the section you need: Control: The Remixes with the "Extended" mix of "Nasty."
At (3:43) is the section (without the "wind" sound effects) that can be inserted at the (2:38) mark of the 45 edit. :)
My next question for Johann (or anyone who knows)---
Can you re-create the 7" vocal version of "Pleasure Principle" by editing the "Long Vocal Remix" on the German version of the above mentioned CD?
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Topic: Janet Jackson - "The Pleasure Principle"
