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jimct MusicFan
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Posted: 10 December 2007 at 12:20am | IP Logged
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I noticed that the four current database CDs that specify "45 version" range in time from (3:22) to (3:31). Unfortunately, I can only find my promo 45 for this at the moment. Both sides of my promo have a listed time of (3:25), but an actual time of (3:31). Perhaps someone with a commercial 45 can determine if the same timing situation exists there as well.
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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Posted: 30 September 2008 at 7:35pm | IP Logged
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Abagon reports that the commercial 45 run time of Johnny Kemp's "Just Got Paid" is also 3:31, not 3:25 as stated on the record label.
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Posted: 14 January 2016 at 10:19pm | IP Logged
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Does anyone own the US promo CD of this one? Discogs has one pictured and lists the catalog number as CSK 1065. If someone has it, would you mind sharing the timings?
I have a 3" import CD that has the same track listing, but I never trust imports to contain the same mixes and edits as a US release, even if the versions are labeled the same.
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Posted: 06 March 2016 at 4:53pm | IP Logged
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Luckily, I was able to snag a copy of the promo CD, and I can now share its contents:
CSK 1065
1. non-described version (listed 5:25; actual 5:22)
2. 7" Version (listed 3:35; actual 3:31)
3. Dub Mix (listed & actual 5:20)
4. Instrumental (listed 5:25; actual 5:22)
I compared the promo to the import 3" CD, and the tracks are the same mixes. The import, however, uses a different analog transfer with a slightly brighter EQ, and the tracks run a tad bit slower.
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Posted: 04 February 2024 at 1:28am | IP Logged
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I thought might be worth mentioning that, although the non-described version on the promo CD is approximately the same length as the LP version, it is clearly a different mix.
It sounds like they are working with the original LP multi-tracks and it's the identical take, but the non-described version mutes some elements and adds some minor extra instrumentation. At times the reverb on the percussion is different.
It also plays nearly 2% faster than the LP version.
The non-described version is available on "Give It Up" (Razor & Tie).
Edited by NightAire on 04 February 2024 at 1:35am
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AutumnAarilyn MusicFan
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Posted: 04 February 2024 at 2:05am | IP Logged
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That's the 12" version. Teddy Riley went more with a
steady groove for the single and album mix. Teddy did
something similar if you compare Keith Sweat's "I want
her" (album mix vs 7" single in that case.) There's less
swingbeat elements in the 7" single and more constant R&B
groove.
I think Johnny Kemp's 12" came out first but probably met
with a bit of resistance. That's how these mixes come
about BTW as it's very interesting to see what goes on in
a writer/producer's head. A few years later hits would be
given to third parties and remixes became a big deal.
I know Babyface changed a couple single versions because
that's the way they were sung live and it's like jazz
where it comes out of an improvisation. It's sort of like
how Kool and the Gang's "Celebration" came out of the
coda in "Ladies night."
Edited by AutumnAarilyn on 04 February 2024 at 2:06am
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