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my commercial cassingle of the song "shy guy" by diana king issued as work 77678 states the version as the "radio edit" with no listed run time but actually runs 3:40......the db states that there is a length issue, but the radio edit ends cold.....so i think the entries need to reviewed again to find out which is which.....i have the correct cassingle version from the cd single....
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As Ed points out, the single version ends cold at 3:40. The song re-starts on the LP version, but the re-start slightly overlaps the ending of the single version. The difference between the two is therefore slightly more than just length.
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Ed,
Does your cassette have a cold intro? We played a version that had the "I don't want no fly guy, I just want a shy guy" edited off. It was from one of the music services, though not a TM-Century Hitdisc (which I believe had the cold intro).
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My station always played a version that had a slightly different cold ending than what is on the Bad Boys soundtrack. The version we played had "shy guy" repeated only twice at the end. On the soundtrack, Diana sings it three times in a row. Anyone familiar with this version?
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the commercial cassingle starts with the intro
"I don't want no fly guy, I just want a shy guy, that's what i want yeah, you know what i want, yeah"
THEN the music starts, so it is NOT a cold intro
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Ed, I think Aaron was asking about a different cold ending that his station played.
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edtop40 wrote:
the commercial cassingle starts with the intro
"I don't want no fly guy, I just want a shy guy, that's what i want yeah, you know what i want, yeah"
THEN the music starts, so it is NOT a cold intro |
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Actually, a "cold intro" refers to a song starting with the vocal, as your copy does.
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eriejwg wrote:
| Ed, I think Aaron was asking about a different cold ending that his station played. |
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Yes, I was wondering about the slightly different ending. I've never heard an official version that cuts off the acapella intro; however, my station cued past it when playing it on the air.
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Here are the contents of my promo CD single:
Diana King-"Shy Guy" (OSK 6481)
1-Radio Edit (listed 3:39; actual 3:41)
2-Darpe Mix (listed & actual 3:41)
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I just revisted my copy on a Network 40 radio sampler, and I can confirm that this copy runs 3:37 and only repeats "shy guy" twice at the end. There must be another promo single floating around out there somewhere...
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My Promo Only Mainstream and Radio Essential Series discs also contain the ending with two "shy guy"s at the end. After listening they seem tighter than the the other version with three. I swear you can also hear the edit point between the two because of a cymbal being clipped.
I also have a "Better Into Edit" version on a Golddisc that has an actual time of 4:04. It cuts off the acapella intro and has a fade ending.
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Pat brought up in another thread that he doesn't include details of DJ compilations, which is understandable. My question, though, is should we include song timing/version info if it has appeared on more than one DJ compilation?
In this thread, for example, it has been documented that THREE different DJ compilations (Promo Only Mainstream, Radio Essential Series, and Network 40) have all included the same edit of "Shy Guy." It is very likely that this version is an official record company issue, although we have yet to see evidence presented on the board of an actual promo CD single with this 3:37 version.
Basically, I have a huge collection of radio compilation discs from the last 13 years, but I don't have a massive collection of promo CD singles from that era. I am more than happy to supply missing database details of radio versions if they have appeared on my DJ compilations and are very likely to have come from original promo CD singles.
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mainrhythm wrote:
| I swear you can also hear the edit point between the two because of a cymbal being clipped. |
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I believe what you're hearing is a hi-hat tap and not a clipped cymbal. The ending on this unique version is not simply edited. After the two "shy guys," there is some trailing reverb, but no echo. My stock CD single that has three "shy guys" at the end has an echo--not just reverb. It's more like "shy guy, shy guy, shy guy...guy, shy guy, shy guy (echoes out)." For this reason, you would not be able to re-create the promo version by just editing.
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OK, I had to go back and listen more carefully. The entire song is a barely noticeable but slightly different mix, and I had never noticed this until doing a side-by-side comparison. The only real difference is that "Radio Edit" on the commercial CD single has "sleigh bells" throughout the song; the promo version has the bells pushed back further in the mix and filtered (all of the high frequencies removed). Also, the EQ on the commercial CD single is much brighter.
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I just obtained Volume 110 of the Hitmakers series (radio V/A promo discs), and this CD also features the 3:37 alternate mix of "Shy Guy." For the last 8 years, I've been hunting for evidence of a promo CD single with this mix with no luck.
In my travels, however, I found a remix promo CD single. I had never heard any of these remixes prior to finding this CD, but here are the details:
OSK 7205
1. Salah Einstein Mix (actual 4:21)
2. Einstrumental (actual 4:31)
3. Stripped Salah Mix (actual 4:17)
4. Accapella (actual 4:25)
These are drastically different versions from the hit recording. Not only do they have a very urban sounding backing track, but the vocals are totally re-recorded. The remixes sample "Remind Me" by Patrice Rushen, which was one of the tracks on the same album as "Forget Me Nots."
Edited by aaronk on 22 November 2018 at 9:09am
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