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My commercial 45 has a listed time of (3:01) and an actual time of (3:00). I only post this info because the only current database CD entry for this song states a run time of (3:05).
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Does anyone have "I Can't Stand the Rain" on Eruption's parent LP from 1978? It's always possible the LP length could be slightly longer than the 45, or perhaps a pitch difference may even exist between the two.
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I have Eruption's "I Can't Stand the Rain" on a U.K. various artist 2 CD import set called The No. 1 70s Pop Album (Demon MCDLX068). On it, the song runs 3:04. I compared it to a commercial vinyl 45 dub Jim was kind enough to pass along to me. The 45 runs approximately 1.4% faster and fades out a couple of seconds earlier than on my import CD. I don't know whether or not the slower speed on the CD is reflective of the LP pitch.
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By the way, for anyone looking for the hit version of "I Can't Stand the Rain", stay away from the Eruption Greatest Hits German import CD on Sony/BMG. The jewel case comes packaged with an outer cardboard sleeve that shows "I Can't Stand the Rain" as Track 1. However, when the sleeve is removed, the paper tray insert in the back of the jewel case lists the song as "I Can't Stand the Rain (Remix '94)". Sure enough, it is a very different mix than the hit version. Many retail websites like Amazon don't note the remix and thus I wound up wasting 15 bucks on this bogus, misleading CD.
Edited by Todd Ireland on 26 February 2009 at 6:22pm
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my commercial 45 for the eruption song "i can't stand the rain" issued as ariola/hansa 7686 states the run time on the label as 3:01 and contains a spoken chorus reprise of "i can't stand the rain" at the 2:25 that is NOT on the lone cd in the db below....
(S) (3:05) Rhino 72123 Disco Years, Vol. 7
this s/b noted in the db...
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Not sure on this one, but I think the 45 and the LP Versions of "I Can't
Stand the Rain" might have been a bit different.
As Ed notes, the Commercial 45 had a vocal overdub at 2:25 where lead
singer Precious Wilson sings "I Can't Stand the Rain" twice over a brief
instrumental break. As Ed also points out, the version of "I Can't Stand
the Rain" on "Disco Years, Vol. 7" does not contain that overdub and,
accordingly, is not the 45 Version.
But I think it could be the LP Version, taken from Eruption's 1977 self-
titled LP. I don't have the original album, but it's interesting to note that
every lip-synched television performance of this song from 1978 lacks
the vocal overdub. There are quite a few of these contemporary
performances-- taken from various variety music shows-- on YouTube.
Most of them also feature keyboardist Gerry Williams wearing some sort of
crazy praying mantis outfit.
I also note that in one such performance, linked below, it seems like
Precious Wilson might not be sure if she is lip-synching to the version
with the overdub or without, almost sings the overdub lines, and then
turns her back to the camera--- or maybe I'm just imagining that. In this
video, the instrumental break occurs at around 2:18 (because the video
started late).
I
Can't Stand the Rain
So, it seems clear that this "no overdub" version existed in 1978, and was
not just later created for "Disco Years, Vol. 7," but what is it? Is this the LP
Version? Does anybody know?
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I have "I Can't Stand the Rain" on 3 import various artist compilation CDs from the UK, and all 3 lack the vocal overdubs mentioned above (and one is actually a remix, probably the '94 one mentioned above because it sounds rather '90s-ish.) So it looks like the US single version is very rare and never been released on CD anywhere (or at least, not on the UK CDs I have :)
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Other than a possible 2 second difference, was the US LP different than the US single?
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JL328 wrote:
So, it seems clear that this "no overdub" version existed in 1978, and was not just later created for "Disco Years, Vol. 7," but what is it? Is this the LP
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I've just picked up an Australasian pressing of the commercial 45 of I Can't Stand The Rain, credited to Eruption Featuring Precious Wilson. It runs a fraction slower than my CD copy, timing out at just over 3:06. Also, it does not contain the vocal overdubs mentioned earlier in this thread, which incidentally I don't think I have ever heard. It's likely that they are unique to the U.S. 45 version.
Did anyone ever manage to track down a copy of the original Eruption LP to ascertain which version appears there?
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Since a number of different posters over the years have asked about what
version appears on Eruption's self-titled U.S. LP (Ariola 60033), that I
didn't own, I just did a quick eBay browse. I just bought one for $1.98. A
scan of the LP label states a listed run time of (6:25). This timing would
clearly eliminate the LP version as a possible 3:00+ CD source. If I do
discover an egregious listing timing error once I get the LP, I'll report
back.
There was also a 1978 U.S. promo 12" single (PRO-7686) issued for "I
Can't Stand The Rain". It has a listed (6:25) version on one side, and a
listed (3:01) version on the other. This 12" single's label scan details
exactly mimic the listed times of the LP version and the stock/promo 45. I
just snagged a copy for 10 bucks. Again, if I discover any significantly
different actual timing details, I'll report back.
Omnipresent 70s/80s Euro music mogul Frank Farian first signed this
group to the German label Hansa and, as was recently noted in the Boney
M "Rivers Of Babylon" thread (which was another Farian-mentored group),
Farian was an early proponent of doing remixes. Other posters note that
alternate, non-U.S. 45 versions have appeared on several import CDs. I
strongly suspect that Bwci Bo's suspicions are correct, that international "I
Can't Stand The Rain" 45s were different than the U.S. 45 was, and that
mix (or mixes) is what keeps turning up on these import CDs.
My conclusion is that there were only two U.S. versions of "I Can't Stand
The Rain" ever issued in 1978. The listed (6:25) LP version, and the listed
(3:01) 45 version.
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I just obtained the Eruption LP and I agree with Jim. If you wish to recreate the Rhino 72123 version, at 2:25 of the correct 45 version just drop in the ending of the LP version starting at 5:48. By the way the 45 version runs (3:01) exactly as stated on the 45 and the LP version runs (6:25) exactly as stated on the LP.
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Based on what Pat is saying, it appears that there may be only one mix (6:25 LP version), but edited differently on the US 45 compared with international 45s.
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Thanks for all the info, guys. I'm assuming that the brief passage with the vocal overdubs (which seems to be the main difference between the U.S. 45 and international copies) cannot be found anywhere in the LP version and spliced in to recreate the U.S. 45 version?
If anyone has a dub of the U.S. 45 that they would be happy to send to me, I'd really appreciate it. I don't think I've ever heard this version before.
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Re-read Pat's post above. I think what he's saying is that the vocal
overdubs ARE present on the vinyl LP.
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Pat begins his editing instructions by saying "if you wish to recreate the Rhino 72123 version..." and as far as I can tell, that CD does NOT contain the correct U.S. 45 version with the vocal overdubs. At least that's how I interpreted it.
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I see what you mean. I believe what he meant to say is "if you want to
create the 45 version from the Rhino version..." It wouldn't make sense
to "create the Rhino version" again by starting with the Rhino version
and then tacking the end of the LP version onto it. Pat, can you please
clarify?
Edited by aaronk on 15 October 2014 at 4:56pm
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The vocal overdubs do not appear on the LP version. I was trying to explain how Rhino created their version that appeared on Rhino 72123.
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Okay. I totally misinterpreted that. It looks like the only way to get the
actual US 45 version, then, is to dub it from the vinyl.
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Wait! This does not appear to be an overdub for the US 45. As I suspected,
it's just a difference in editing. The full album version does have the
additional vocals right at the 2:25 mark. The Rhino version edits, as Pat
mentions, to the instrumental section at around 5:48 of the LP version,
where the additional vocal does not appear. Therefore, the Rhino version
(which is apparently also on international vinyl 45s) is just edited differently
than the US 45.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnJJCt-we8k
Edited by aaronk on 16 October 2014 at 11:05am
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Well spotted, Aaron!
Thanks to you and Pat for your help sorting this one out.
Edited by Bwci Bo on 16 October 2014 at 2:44pm
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