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The actual commercial 45 run time of Terry Jacks' "Seasons in the Sun" is 3:26. (Thanks once again to Jim for supplying the timing info. The printed record label time is 3:24.) At present, database CDs containing this song run from 3:21-3:29.
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Don't know if anyone noticed, but Pat has added to the database the info for the new Sony boxed set, "Super Hits of the '70s." (This is different from Rhino's series of the same title.) It apparently contains the US CD debut of the mono mix of "Seasons in the Sun."
I don't own this new box set, but I just yesterday found the mono mix on the import "CD Card" for 1974, from the Australian CD Card Company, available in many gift shops here in the US. (Got mine at Borders.) I just A/B'd it with the stereo version, and as per Pat's notes for the song, it really does seem to have no reverb on the organ. It does not seem to be a fold-down of the stereo mix. I wish it wasn't compressed almost flat, but...
It also fades about four seconds earlier than the 45, running 3:22 (which is another thing that makes me think it's the same version as on the new Sony boxed set).
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Brian:
Does your "CD Card" mention what record label the song was licensed from?
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I have a promotional copy of this 45 that I picked up not too long ago...one would think my recent purchases would be easily located....not so....they get thrown into various boxes wherever I can find room, instead of being properly filed away....as soon as I locate it, I will have to time the stereo side of the 45 to see how it adds up.
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Todd Ireland wrote:
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Does your "CD Card" mention what record label the song was licensed from? |
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They're all Sony/BMG Entertainment.
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The stereo side of my promotional 45, confirmed as Bell 45,432 has a label time if (3:24) but an actual playing time of (3:27). It has a slightly longer fade out than the mono side (on the mono side the last words i hear are 'we had joy, we had fun, we had seasons in the sun' whereas on the stereo side the last words i hear are 'we had joy, we had fun, we had seasons in the sun, but the...'). For what it's worth, the mono side of my 45 does run (3:26).
Something I notice in the mono mix is that there is reverb present in the organ on the mono mix but not initially where it is in the stereo mix (it's mostly while he's singing, it sounds like -- of course this may just be my ears playing tricks on me).
I was actually impressed with how well my digital dubs of both my A and B sides stayed fairly in sync with each other (up until the final verse when the stereo mix seemed to speed up slightly). During the A/B, the mono side had a quicker dropoff in volume near the end while the stereo side had a more gradual fade out.
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Did anyone ever pick up one of the CDs that have the mono version of "Seasons In The Sun"? If so, can it be confirmed that this is the mono 45 mix and not merely a fold down of the stereo version?
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In 1961, Belgian singer Jacques Brel recorded a song in French called "Le Moribond", which translates as "The Dying Man".
In 1963, the Kingston Trio recorded the first English translation of "Le Moribond", now titled "Seasons In The Sun".
I have another cover by Pearls Before Swine from 1971. Wikipedia says that the Fortunes covered it, too, apparently in 1969. YouTube has a version recorded by the Beach Boys, probably in 1969 or 1970 for the session for Wildflower; I don't think this was released at the time.
Finally, Terry Jacks covered the song in 1973, replacing the last two verses with more upbeat lyrics. In order to make sure that DJs knew which side of the 45 to play, Terry Jacks recorded a deliberately awful song called "Put The Bone In". He's in on the joke; crank up the fade for "Put The Bone In" and you'll hear him groan at the very end, "Oh no." Terry Jacks also recorded "Seasons In The Sun" in German. I don't know why.
The single was a giant worldwide hit in 1974.
The oldest CD I have with the song is Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 12 (1990). It runs 3:27 here, with a fade from 3:13 to 3:27, and the last words you hear in the fade are "but the stars". It sounds pretty good on this disc, with a great dynamic range, a reasonable EQ, a nice, hissy fade, and no evidence of noise reduction. It's in pretty narrow stereo - listen for the hi-hat panned just slightly to the left in the verses. The same analog transfer is used for:- Priority's Seventies Greatest Rock Hits Vol. 9 #1 Hits (1991)
- Warner Special Products' 2-CD 40 Summer Fun Hits (1993)
- Time-Life's AM Gold Vol. 21 1974 (1996) - digitally exactly 0.5 dB louder
- Rhino's Billboard Top Soft Rock Hits 1974 (1997) - digitally identical
- Time-Life's 2-CD Singers And Songwriters Vol. 8 Mid-'70s (2001) - digitally exactly 0.5 dB louder
Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 31 AM Top Twenty (1993) also uses the same analog transfer as Have A Nice Day Vol. 12, but swaps the left and right channels and shortens the fade by a fraction of a second. These discs are based on the mastering for Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 31 AM Top Twenty, and also have their left and right channels reversed:- Madacy's Rock On 1974 (1996) - digitally exactly 2.9 dB louder
- Reader's Digest's 4-CD American Pie (1998)
- Time-Life's 2-CD Seventies Music Explosion One-Hit Wonders (2005)
There's a higher-generation analog transfer on Razor & Tie's Those Fabulous '70s (1990), which doesn't sound nearly as clear as the Rhino disc. It's in stereo, with the same left/right orientation as the Rhino disc. It also fades much earlier, with a fade from 3:03 to 3:26. The same analog transfer is used on:- Razor & Tie's 2-CD Suddenly '70s (1997)
- Vol. 1 of Razor & Tie's 6-CD 70 Number One Hits Of The 70s (1998) - differently-EQ'd digital clone of Suddenly '70s
- Madacy's Vintage Pop (2005) - mastered WAY too loud and clips severely
Much, much worse is the version on Good Music's 2-CD Rare Gold (1990), which has the same fade points as the Razor & Tie discs, and is also in stereo, but sounds like it's underwater.
And finally, one outlier with the mono version: Skifan Iceland's 2-CD Pottþétt 70's (2001). It runs 3:23 here, with a fade from 3:13 to 3:23, and a slightly truncated tail on the fade. This appears to be a dedicated mono mix, not a fold-down of the stereo. Listen to the keyboards between 0:10 and 0:11 at the beginning of the song. The mono mix has no reverb, while the stereo mix has a pronounced reverb on the last two keyboard notes. It looks like the mono mix is also available on some US compilations from Compass Productions and Sony. Those will certainly be easier to find than this obscure collection from Iceland (which I bought in the airport in Reykjavik coming home from a business trip in 2002).
My recommendation: Go with Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 12 (1990).
Edited by crapfromthepast on 24 February 2017 at 3:05pm
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