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Todd Ireland wrote:
Tom:
If I'm not mistaken, the short version of "Touch of Grey" on your promo CD single is the same as the 45 version, which has been issued on a number of CDs. However, a quick check of the database shows the 45 version runs :03-:04 short on most of these CDs, so I would be interested in a wave file dub of your promo.
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Right, apparently copies that run 4:31 fade early...my copy definitely doesn't fade before 4:33, but the end part of the fade is very low....i still believe it may be the true single version. I did send out the file to you, have you had a chance to review it yet?
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Thanks, Tom, for sending the file... I've had a chance to review it and, as I suspected, the short version of "Touch of Grey" on your promo CD single is indeed identical to the 45 version. Both run 4:33.
I've also conducted an A/B comparison between the aforementioned promo CD single track and the 45 version appearing on the Entertainment Weekly Greatest Hits 1987 (Buddha 99713) CD. The latter disc fades out :04 sooner than the true 45 length. As a result, the verse "we will get by" is heard a total of three times prior to the full fadeout on the promo CD/vinyl 45, but only two times on the Entertainment Weekly CD.
On a side note, I agree that "Touch of Grey" is a great record and still rate it as one of the most unexpected chart surprises ever. After all, the Grateful Dead had never really been a commercial band and was primarily known for its huge cult following in the '60s and '70s. So if someone had told me at the start of 1987 that the Dead was suddenly going to score its first ever Top 10 single later that year, I almost certainly would've thought that person was insane!
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Plus how many 45's do you own pressed on grey vinyl??
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bwolfe wrote:
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A few, actually :o) Collectables records issued a series of Elvis reissues on grey vinyl sometime in the 90's....
Actually, though, the first copy of Touch Of Grey that I owned (and still own) was on black vinyl... i got my grey vinyl copy later on. The black vinyl copy didn't come with the fold out poster sleeve.
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I recently did some research on which top 40 hits appeared on promo CD singles, and I thought I'd post my findings here.
Only these 33 songs have known promo CD singles:
Aerosmith - Dude (Looks Like A Lady) - PRO-CD-2794
Aretha Franklin - I Knew You Were Waiting (For Me) - ASCD 9560
Belinda Carlisle - Heaven Is A Place On Earth - CD45-17397
Bon Jovi - Wanted Dead Or Alive - CD7P 01
Bourgeois Tagg - I Don't Mind At All - PR 2103-2
Cutting Crew - I've Been In Love Before - PRCD2076
David Bowie - Never Let Me Down - DPRO-31352
Dionne Warwick - Love Power - ASCD 9567
Fleetwood Mac - Big Love - PRO-CD-2710
Fleetwood Mac - Little Lies - PRO-CD-2821
Gloria Estefan - Betcha Say That - ESK 2789
Gloria Estefan - Rhythm Is Gonna Get You - ASK 2700
Go West - Don't Look Down - The Sequel - CDS 4
Grateful Dead - Touch Of Grey - ASCD 9606
Heart - Alone - DPRO-79024
Herb Alpert - Diamonds - CD 17476/DX 1792
John Cougar Mellencamp - Paper In Fire - CD P03
Michael Bolton - That's What Love Is All About - CSK 2781
Michael Jackson - Bad - ESK 2808
Michael Jackson - I Just Can't Stop Loving You - ESK 2750
Mick Jagger - Let's Work - CSK 2771
Mr. Mister - Something Real (Inside Me/Inside You) - 6601-2-RDJ
New Order - True Faith - PRO-CD-2899
Partland Brothers - Soul City - CDPRO 100
Sammy Hagar - Give To Live - PRO-CD-2750
Squeeze - Hourglass - CD 17490
Starship - It's Not Over (Til It's Over) - 6478-2-GDJ
Stevie Wonder - Skeletons - PR211MD
Thompson Twins - Get That Love - ASCD 9577
U2 - Where The Streets Have No Name - PR 2104-2
Wa Wa Nee - Sugar Free - ESK 2788
Whitney Houston - I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me) - ASCD 9599
Yes - Love Will Find A Way - PR 2088-2
I was unable to find any of the remaining top 40 hits from 1987 on promo CD singles, but if anyone has any of these, I would greatly appreciate any info.
ABC - When Smokey Sings
Al Jarreau - Moonlighting (Theme)
Alexander O'Neal - Fake
Anita Baker - Caught Up In The Rapture
Aretha Franklin - Jimmy Lee
Atlantic Starr - Always
Bananarama - I Heard A Rumour
Bangles - Walking Down Your Street
Beastie Boys - (You Gotta) Fight For Your Right (To Party!)
Benjamin Orr - Stay The Night
Bill Medley & Jennifer Warnes - (I've Had) The Time Of My Life
Billy Idol - Don't Need A Gun
Billy Idol - Mony Mony "Live"
Billy Idol - Sweet Sixteen
Billy Joel - This Is The Time
Billy Vera - At This Moment
Bob Seger - Shakedown
Bon Jovi - Edge Of A Broken Heart
Bon Jovi - Livin' On A Prayer
Bon Jovi - Never Say Goodbye
Boston - 'Can'tcha Say (You Believe In Me)
Boston - We're Ready
Breakfast Club - Right On Track
Bruce Hornsby - Every Little Kiss
Bruce Hornsby - Mandolin Rain
Bruce Springsteen - Brilliant Disguise
Bruce Willis - Respect Yourself
Bryan Adams - Hearts On Fire
Bryan Adams - Heat Of The Night
Bryan Adams - Victim Of Love
Cameo - Candy
Carly Simon - Coming Around Again
Cars, The - You Are The Girl
Chicago - If She Would Have Been Faithful
Chicago - Will You Still Love Me?
Chico DeBarge - Talk To Me
Chris DeBurgh - The Lady In Red
Cinderella - Nobody's Fool
Club Nouveau - Lean On Me
Club Nouveau - Why You Treat Me So Bad
Communards - Don't Leave Me This Way
Company B - Fascinated
Corey Hart - Can't Help Falling In Love
Crowded House - Don't Dream It's Over
Crowded House - Something So Strong
Cutting Crew - (I Just) Died In Your Arms
Cutting Crew - One For The Mockingbird
Cyndi Lauper - Change Of Heart
Cyndi Lauper - What's Going On
Dan Hill - Can't We Try
Danny Wilson - Mary's Prayer
David Bowie - Day-In Day-Out
Dead Or Alive - Brand New Lover
Debbie Gibson - Only In My Dreams
Debbie Gibson - Shake Your Love
Def Leppard - Animal
Donna Allen - Serious
Duran Duran - Notorious
Duran Duran - Skin Trade
Eddie Money - Endless Nights
Eddie Money - I Wanna Go Back
Europe - Carrie
Europe - Rock The Night
Europe - The Final Countdown
Exposé - Come Go With Me
Exposé - Let Me Be The One
Exposé - Point Of No Return
Fat Boys - Wipeout
Fleetwood Mac - Seven Wonders
Freddie Jackson - Jam Tonight
Genesis - In Too Deep
Genesis - Land Of Confusion
Genesis - Tonight, Tonight, Tonight
George Michael - Faith
George Michael - I Want Your Sex
Georgia Satellites - Keep Your Hands To Yourself
Glass Tiger - I Will Be There
Glass Tiger - Someday
Glenn Medeiros - Nothing's Gonna Change My Love For You
Gregory Abbott - Shake You Down
Heart - Who Will You Run To
Herb Alpert - Making Love In The Rain
Hipsway - The Honeythief
Huey Lewis & The News - Doing It All For My Baby
Huey Lewis & The News - I Know What I Like
Huey Lewis & The News - Jacob's Ladder
Janet Jackson - Control
Janet Jackson - Let's Wait Awhile
Janet Jackson - The Pleasure Principle
Jeff Lorber - Facts Of Love
Jellybean - Who Found Who
Jennifer Rush - Flames Of Paradise
Jets - Cross My Broken Heart
Jets - I Do You
Jets, The - You Got It All
Joan Jett & The Blackhearts - Light Of Day
Jody Watley - Don't You Want Me
Jody Watley - Looking For A New Love
Jonathan Butler - Lies
Journey - I'll Be Alright Without You
Kane Gang - Motortown
Kansas - All I Wanted
Kenny G - Don't Make Me Wait For Love
Kenny G - Songbird
Kenny Loggins - Meet Me Half Way
Kim Wilde - You Keep Me Hangin' On
Klymaxx - I'd Still Say Yes
Kool & The Gang - Stone Love
Kool & The Gang - Victory
Level 42 - Lessons In Love
Levert - Casanova
Linda Ronstadt - Somewhere Out There
Lionel Richie - Ballerina Girl
Lionel Richie - Se La
Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam - Head To Toe
Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam - Lost In Emotion
Living In A Box - Living In A Box
LL Cool J - I Need Love
Los Lobos - Come On, Let's Go
Los Lobos - La Bamba
Lou Gramm - Midnight Blue
Loverboy - Notorious
Luther Vandross - Stop To Love
Madonna - Causing A Commotion
Madonna - La Isla Bonita
Madonna - Open Your Heart
Madonna - Who's That Girl
Miami Sound Machine - Falling In Love (Uh-Oh)
Mötley Crüe - Girls, Girls, Girls
Natalie Cole - Jump Start
Nylons - Kiss Him Goodbye
Other Ones - Holiday
Outfield - Since You've Been Gone
Paul Simon - You Can Call Me Al
Pet Shop Boys - It's A Sin
Peter Gabriel - Big Time
Peter Wolf - Come As You Are
Poison - I Won't Forget You
Poison - Talk Dirty To Me
Pretty Poison - Catch Me (I'm Falling)
Prince - Sign O' The Times
Prince - U Got The Look
Pseudo Echo - Funkytown
Psychedelic Furs - Heartbreak Beat
R.E.M. - The One I Love
Ready For The World - Love You Down
REO Speedwagon - In My Dreams
REO Speedwagon - That Ain't Love
Restless Heart - I'll Still Be Loving You
Richard Marx - Don't Mean Nothing
Richard Marx - Should've Known Better
Robbie Nevil - C'est La Vie
Robbie Nevil - Dominoes
Robbie Nevil - Wot's It To Ya
Robert Cray Band - Smoking Gun
Samantha Fox - Touch Me (I Want Your Body)
Shirley Murdock - As We Lay
Simply Red - The Right Thing
Smokey Robinson - Just To See Her
Smokey Robinson - One Heartbeat
Stacey Q - We Connect
Starship - Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now
Steve Winwood - Back In The High Life Again
Steve Winwood - The Finer Things
Steve Winwood - Valerie
Sting - We'll Be Together
Surface - Happy
Survivor - Is This Love
Suzanne Vega - Luka
Swing Out Sister - Breakout
System - Don't Disturb This Groove
Tiffany - I Think We're Alone Now
Timothy B. Schmit - Boys Night Out
Tina Turner - Two People
Tina Turner - What You Get Is What You See
Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers - Jammin' Me
Toto - Without Your Love
T'Pau - Heart And Soul
U2 - I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For
U2 - With Or Without You
Wang Chung - Hypnotize Me
Wang Chung - Let's Go
Whispers - Rock Steady
Whitesnake - Here I Go Again
Whitesnake - Is This Love
Whitney Houston - Didn't We Almost Have It All
World Party - Ship Of Fools
Edited by aaronk on 12 February 2016 at 8:39pm
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Thanks for compiling this list Aaron--there were a few I didn't know existed!
I do have two promo CDs that were not on the list:
Sammy Hagar - Give To Live Geffen PRO-CD-2750, 1 track, with listed time of 4:21 (comes in cardboard digipak case with full color photo and graphics)
Go West - Don't Look Down - The Sequel Chrysalis CDS 4, this is a 3" cd single that includes two additional tracks (the title track has a listed time of 4:20), it comes in a plain cardboard sleeve that reads:
Go West
CD SINGLE
Don't Look Down (The Sequel)
From the LP,
DANCING ON THE COUCH
FOR PROMOTION ONLY
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Thank you so much, Mike! I will update the list to include your additions.
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looking through my library i did find one that was NOT on
your list but it's says made in england.....don't know if
that disqualifies it for inclusion, but i will outline
the specifics anyway.....boston 'can'tcha say (you belive
in me)' issued as dmca 1150 and contains the below..
1-can'tcha say (you believe in me)/still in love (5:13
listed; 5:13 actual)
2-the launch: a) countdown, b) ignition, c) third stage
seperation (2:56 listed; 2:56 actual)
3-cool the engines (4:23 listed; 4:23 actual)
4-can'tcha say (you believe in me)/still in love (4:11
listed; 4:11 actual)
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found another one!!
jonathan butler 'lies' issued as jive c141 and contains the
below tracks...
1-lies (7" version) (4:39 listed; 4:38 actual)
2-baby please don't take it (4:19 listed; 4:21 actual)
3-crossroads revisited (4:45 listed; 4:47 actual)
4-haunted by your love (4:59 listed; 5:00 actual)
5-lies (extended version) (5:20 listed; 5:20 actual)
this one doesn't say where it's made, but it also may be an
england pressing because the times are noted as (4'39 and
not as 4:39)
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i also have bruce hornsby's 'mandolin rain' but it looks
like it's a commercial cd single from england as it has the
bar code on it....let me know if anyone needs the
details...
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Hey Ed, thanks for the details on your import CD singles! When I put
my list together, I hadn't researched those.
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elcoleccionista wrote:
Jim, what is the catalog number of your "Tonight, Tonight, Tonight" single?
Mine is DRAW412, and the reason I ask is because although the disc itself lists it as "remix", it plays a shorter album version with no added production.
Or does the fact that there is a "blend" of sections at 2:39 and not a "cold" cut make it eligible to be called "Remix"?
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I wanted to know precisely the same thing. :)
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Jim's UK single is also DRAW 412. The CD itself says "Remix" for track 1, but the back of the cardboard sleeve states "Edited Version." I compared track 1 to the LP version, and I also hear no mix differences.
That said, there is something odd that occurs at 2:37 that is certainly not on the LP version. During the line "What am I gonna do?" there is a jump in volume on the high frequencies only. On the UK CD single, it only lasts for a split second, but it's very noticeable. Even more strange is that this same jump in high frequencies also happens on the copy found on the Atlantic Year In Review 1987 CD, but it lasts for nearly a full second.
When time permits, I'll pull out the stock 45 copy I have to see if this same audio glitch appears on the 7" single.
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aaronk wrote:
Aerosmith - Dude (Looks Like A Lady) -
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I've found an alternate promo CD single for this. It's
a 3" disc, Geffen CDS 9. Listed 4:20 / actual 4:24.
It's marked promo-only, but unclear whether this was
intended for radio or another audience (press, etc.).
Did radio get many 3" promos?
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