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Paul Esch
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I am slowly trying to make my own single edits of LP versions,
based on my own 45s, since there doesn't seem to be a huge run of
re-issue CDs out lately with single versions on them. So far, I
haven't done too badly, experimenting with Seger, the Little River
Band, and using the very helpful editing tips sprinkled throughout
other posts on this site.
Now, I'm editing down Eagles LP versions down to their single
edits. However, it sounds to me as though "One Of These Nights"
was not only edited, but sped-up. I'm not 100% sure of my turntable
speed, so could anybody out there confirm if the 45 version is sped-
up? Thanks.
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Todd Ireland
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Paul:
Actually, one of my next homemade 45 edits I will be replicating from CD is "One of These Nights". I've acquired an mp3 copy of the commercial 45 from Edtop40. I've always found his turntable to be pretty accurate so I believe his mp3 reflects the correct 45 speed.
I ran a quick A/B comparison between the 45 and the LP version on CD via my Adobe Audition software and I've concluded that both versions play very close to the same speed. The 45 run time is 3:34 so if you're coming up with a significantly shorter run time when you clock your 45 copy, then your turntable is likely playing at a faster than normal speed.
Edited by Todd Ireland on 10 October 2005 at 5:08pm
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Not to hijack this thread, but is it possible to replicate the 45 version of the Eagles' "Best Of My Love" by a simple edit (or two or 10 or 20) of the LP version? And if so, how?
Doug
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Haven't checked up on Best of My Love, but "One of These Nights" was the first homemade edit I ever did. I didn't notice the 45 running at a different speed. I edited mine from the DCC gold Gr. Hits.
Tip: one thing you'll want to notice is that the volume of the sound VERY SLIGHTLY increases at the edit point, because the point they jump to is after the fadeout already starts, so they needed to up the volume to match the pre-edit point, and they appear to have overcompensated. The edit point is right between "these" and "nights," right before, "And I wanna say, heeeeeey."
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Paul Esch
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As for "Best Of My Love," there is only one edit. At the end of the
bridge, at about the 3:06 mark, when Henley sings "I guess that
wasn't enough, oh ooh woh but" the edit cuts out everything until
the band is singing "Oh, sweet darlin'." Just go to the point where
there are two sets of "Oh, sweet darlin's" before Henley sings "Every
night and day." Then fade from 3:18 to 3:30 and cut off the rest.
It'll sound like an abrupt cut, but that's the way it is on the 45.
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So it should sound like this:
. . .I guess it wasn't enough, oh, oh-whoa-hoh, but
Ohhhhhhhhhh, sweet darling
You get the best of my love
Whoa-hoh-hoh-ohhhhhhh, sweet darling
Every night and day
You get the best of my love
(Start fade at 3:18)
Yes?
Doug
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Doug--Yes, that's correct.
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It's been reported in ICE that many of the Eagles CDs were issued with speed problems, and are supposedly corrected in the remastered versions. I don't know if that has anything to do with the speed difference noticed.
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See I thought that the only splice in "...Nights" was eliminating the first 17 seconds on the 45-rpm disc. Where were the other edits?
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And that single edit sticks out like a sore thumb and audible as heck.
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Can someone report what the edit points are in the single version of "One of These Nights"? I wanted to get a WAV of the edit, and figured I'd find all the details on this board, so I was surprised it wasn't here.
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It always surprises me to hear edits of the Eagles music on the radio. After all these years, most people (not us collectors) have totally forgotten about the edited 45 mixes. Thanks for the edit points on "Best Of My Love". I always appreciate the insight on this site.
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Just so no one is mistaken, there are TWO edit points in the 45 of "Best Of My Love".
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Oh? What's the other? (Is it on the fade?)
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"Take It To The Limit" had to have the most difficult 45
edit during the ad-lib part of the song.
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To Doug:
Yes, it is on the fade. It's hard for me to explain, but it's easy to figure out when you have a dub of the real 45.
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Since the subject of The Eagles' "One of These Nights" has come back up, I thought I'd also point out that the commercial 45 was EQ'd to sound brighter and more "airy" compared to the LP version which sonically sounds darker and more muffled. In my humble opinion, the 45's punchier and more energetic tonality is how this awesome song was meant to be heard!
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I found "One Of These Nights" and Todd you're on the mark. It is a much punchier mix than the album.
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AndrewChouffi wrote:
To Doug:
Yes, it is on the fade. It's hard for me to explain, but
it's easy to figure out when you have a dub of the real 45.
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Yes, and as I recall from doing my own edit, they didn't
quite properly match the volume when they adjusted it
coming in from the fade, so it's like, "One of these
NIIIIIGHTS." Not quite that bad, but if you're listening
for it, you can hear the jump in volume.
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To Brian W.:
Actually in my statement I was talking about "Best Of My Love".
But your statement about "One Of These Nights" is absolutely correct.
On another note, I am of the opinion that the single version of "One Of These Nights" is NOT a different mix, it is simply equalized with some upper midrange & treble frequencies in it (and maybe some extra compression in the mastering stage).
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