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    Posted: 18 October 2014 at 9:50pm
For the search engine: Electric Light Orchestra aka ELO - Don't Bring Me Down

This was ELO's highest-charting single in the US, peaking at #4 in 1979. It's formed around a drum loop taken from another song on the Discovery album ("On The Run") and slowed down. The guy on the Discovery album cover is a very young Brad Garrett, the meaningless word in the chorus is "Grroosss", and that weird sound at the end is the sound of the fire door to the studio slamming shut. So much trivia.

In a 2001 interview, Jeff Lynne commented on the song, "It's a great big galloping ball of distortion". I agree. It's never going to sound great. The various CDs that feature the song try to EQ the weirdness as best as they can, but it'll always sound a bit off.

The very old promo disc CBS Records Compact Disc Demonstration (1983) runs at 115.2 BPM throughout, and sounds a little dull, but only a little.

The early Japan-for-US mastering of Discovery, with matrix number 35DP-24, is ear-bleedingly bright, at least for "Don't Bring Me Down". It runs at 115.0 BPM throughout. Two others that also run at 115.0 BPM and sound similarly bright are:
  • Telstar UK's 2-CD The Very Best Of (1989)
  • EMI's 5-CD Pop Complete (1999)
Much better is Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 9 1979 (1990), which sounds the best out of everything I own for "Don't Bring Me Down". It runs at 115.3 BPM throughout. The same analog transfer is used for:
  • Time-Life's Guitar Rock Vol. 2 1978-1979 (1993)
  • Time-Life's 2-CD Classic Soft Rock Vol. 9 Cool Night (2007; digitally exactly 1.13 dB louder)
Finally, one last new analog transfer, on the 2-CD Strange Magic ELO collection (1995), where it runs 115.8 BPM throughout. I don't like this one as much as the Time-Life mastering. Others that use the same analog transfer:
  • Razor & Tie's 2-CD Super '70s (1995)
  • Sony's 2-CD Pop Music The Modern Era 1976-1999 (1999)
There are perhaps hundreds of ELO compilations out there, and I don't know how those others sound. Overall, I really like Strange Magic, but not for this one song.

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Originally posted by crapfromthepast crapfromthepast wrote:

For the search engine: Electric Light Orchestra aka ELO - Don't Bring Me Down

This was ELO's highest-charting single in the US, peaking at #4 in 1979. It's formed around a drum loop taken from another song on the Discovery album ("On The Run") and slowed down.
The guy on the Discovery album cover is a very young Brad Garrett, the meaningless word in the chorus is "Grroosss", and that weird sound at the end is the sound of the fire door to
the studio slamming shut. So much trivia.


I just knew that someday I would stumble upon an answer for the years-long burning question, "Was that some kind of cart machine at the end of the song?"

I guess they wanted the effect to make it sound like the end of the song had finally arrived. Maybe not. Cool info though!

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I've been singing "Bruce" instead of "Grroosss" for over
four decades. Very cool info indeed.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LunarLaugh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 January 2022 at 5:50pm
Originally posted by crapfromthepast crapfromthepast wrote:

Much better is Time-Life's
Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 9 1979 (1990), which
sounds the best out of everything I own for "Don't Bring Me
Down".


Is this the 1979 disc identical to the Sounds Of The
Seventies "'70s Dance Party 1979" disc? Seems to have all
the same tracks.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hykker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 January 2022 at 6:45am
Originally posted by Santi Paradoa Santi Paradoa wrote:

I've been singing "Bruce" instead of "Grroosss" for over
four decades.


That's what I always heard too.
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Originally posted by LunarLaugh LunarLaugh wrote:

Is this the 1979 disc identical to the Sounds Of The Seventies "'70s Dance Party 1979" disc? Seems to have all the same tracks.


Yes. Time-Life repackaged Sounds Of The Seventies 1979 as Seventies Dance Party 1979 and later as Ultimate Seventies 1979. Same track listing, same mastering.
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FWIW, I just checked a dozen masterings out in the wild, and have to agree that the Time-Life mastering is the best overall. I believe it was by Dennis Drake?

If you like the mastering of Led Zeppelin albums or Low-era Bowie, you might like the Discovery 1993 gold disc (ZK 64646). The mastering is not an authentic "ELO on LP" sound, and definitely not the sound of 1979, but the extra emphasis they gave to the drums & vocals is enjoyable in a 70s rock-radio kind of way.
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Originally posted by mjb50 mjb50 wrote:

FWIW, I just checked a dozen masterings out in the wild, and have to agree that the Time-Life mastering is the best overall. I believe it was by Dennis Drake?


Bill Inglot was involved with this disc, and a handful of the early Sounds Of The Seventies series.

The credits in the booklets are a little dicey regarding who actually mastered them: Bill Inglot is mentioned only in the Ultimate Seventies booklet, Dennis Drake is credited with mastering the '70s Dance Party disc (and he likely just signed off on the earlier mastering), and the original release just said that it was mastered at MCA Recording Studios in California.

Take your pick! Any project that involves Bill Inglot *and* Dennis Drake is going to sound great.
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A note: CD releases of this which are bright (have pre-
emphasis) in their mastering. If your player does not
decode pre-emphasis correctly, these discs will be very
bright sounding.
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Originally posted by KentT KentT wrote:

A note: CD releases of this which are bright (have pre-
emphasis) in their mastering. If your player does not
decode pre-emphasis correctly, these discs will be very
bright sounding.


This is something new to me. I don't use a player, I do all the work on a PC with an external USB interface. Will this affect my ripps?

The above post made me dig out the CD. I went to the chorus and listened to that too. I never heard Grrross before either. Nor did I hear Brruuce.
As artists sometimes tend to just blurt out stuff, I would use Peter Gabriel as a fine example, I just assumed it was a nonsense sound.

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