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crapfromthepast MusicFan
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Posted: 27 September 2023 at 8:22pm | IP Logged
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I feel like this should be somewhere on the board, but I couldn't find it.
The 45 is mono and includes double-tracked vocals throughout the song. It's readily available on lots of CDs; I like Rhino's Billboard Top Rock & Roll Hits Of 1969 (both 1989 and 1993 releases).
There's a stereo version that includes single-tracked vocals throughout the song. It's also readily available on lots of CDs; I like Rhino's British Invasion Vol. 9 (1991).
The database shows the stereo version as "underdub", which I assume refers to the single-tracked vocals.
Was this stereo version released in any form in 1969? I can't tell if it was a "stereo LP version" from back then, or if it was just an artifact that appeared in the CD era.
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AdvprosD MusicFan
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Wasn't this an imported single from the other side of the pond?
I haven't noticed the double vs single tracked vocals, but that's just me. Perhaps the UK releases were single-tracked vocals?
I'm going to look for that one on some of those imports I have.
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AndrewChouffi MusicFan
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Posted: 28 September 2023 at 4:44am | IP Logged
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To Ron:
I'm pretty sure the stereo version didn't show up in the
USA 'til much later. I'm actually reasonably certain that
it wasn't out in the UK when it was a hit, either.
What I am sure about is the first album that I owned that
contained it was the 1975 'Best Of The British Invasion'
on Pye Records thru a USA distribution deal with NY's ATV
Records.
This album also contained (in my estimation) the USA
stereo debut of Sandie Shaw's hits and a curiously both
true-stereo AND re-channeled "Does Your Chewing Gum Lose
It's Flavor".
If anyone can let me know of any earlier stereo USA
releases of these tracks please let me know!
I would also like to be made aware of any known earlier
import stereo releases of these tracks.
Thanks!
Andy
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LunarLaugh MusicFan
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Posted: 28 September 2023 at 9:36pm | IP Logged
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One of the most noticeable liner note errors is in the booklet for Dick Bartley's Collector's
Essentials: On The Radio Vol. 4 which reads:
"We are proud to present the original single version in stereo; there are no noticeable differences
from the mono release."
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PopArchivist MusicFan
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Posted: 29 September 2023 at 10:43am | IP Logged
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crapfromthepast wrote:
Was this stereo version released in any form in 1969? I can't tell if it was a "stereo LP version" from back then, or if it was just an artifact that appeared in the CD era. |
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Good question. Not sure. It's on their best of from 2004 in stereo and mono. The From The Foundations Expanded Edition has the mono. I would venture that its not the LP version if you cant find it on a 69 stereo album anywhere, just my 2 cents.
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davidclark MusicFan
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According to Both Sides Now website, it is shown as "e" on the 1969 Uni LP.
Andrew, what do you mean by ...both true-stereo AND re-channeled "Does
Your Chewing Gum Lose It's Flavor"?
Is this the LP to which you refer:
https://www.discogs.com/release/4988083-Various-Best-Of-The-
British-Invasion
So Sandie Shaw's hits on her Reprise LP "Sandie Shaw" were not true stereo? I
would love to know what other true stereo songs are on that Pye LP.
Edited by davidclark on 29 September 2023 at 10:14pm
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AndrewChouffi MusicFan
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Posted: 30 September 2023 at 6:44am | IP Logged
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davidclark wrote:
Andrew, what do you mean by ...both
true-stereo AND re-channeled "Does Your Chewing Gum Lose
It's Flavor"? |
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Well, it is the true stereo version, but they ran it
through the re-channelling process anyway (you know that
old 'one side tin, the other side mud' that was prevalent
in the sixties...)
Andy
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AndrewChouffi MusicFan
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davidclark wrote:
So Sandie Shaw's hits on her Reprise LP "Sandie Shaw"
were not true stereo? |
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David, I am really not sure!
All I remember is I never found a copy of the US stereo
album in the early-to-mid Seventies, and my older
"collector friends" suggested that I try an import album
if I wanted to see if they were stereo - but I was
"afraid" to take a chance on a Goldmine listing...
Andy
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EdisonLite MusicFan
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I bought a Foundations 4CD newly released box set because it claimed to have
the album "From the Foundations" in stereo (that's the album with "Baby Now
That I've Found You". When I bought and listened to it, I was disappointed. I'm
not sure that it is E-stereo. But whatever it was, it didn't have much stereo
separation.
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TomDiehl1 MusicFan
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EdisonLite wrote:
I bought a Foundations
4CD newly released box set because it
claimed to have
the album "From the Foundations" in stereo
(that's the album with "Baby Now
That I've Found You". When I bought and
listened to it, I was disappointed. I'm
not sure that it is E-stereo. But whatever
it was, it didn't have much stereo
separation. |
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Probably just used the original lp masters
so whatever was stereo on the lp would be
replicated, not upgraded.
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