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This is a case in which I would make a distinction between the 'A' side and the 'hit' side. The live version is the 'A' side because of the info on the sleeve, the lower matrix number, and the fact that the Canadian 45 (which has the same label number and sleeve) does explicitly indentify it as 'Side One'. But the studio version is the 'hit' side because it's the only version anyone remembers hearing on the radio and because it's the version that charted in Billboard (as evidenced by the Hot 100's production credit to 'R. Chertoff').
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While a single's A-side does contain the correct hit version 98-99% of the time, there are exceptions and I would have to say one applies here with Cyndi Lauper's "Money Changes Everything" because I concur that the studio version is the one I've always heard played on radio. There are other B-sides in Top 40 history that have clearly contained the "hit" side... One that immediately comes to mind is Paul McCartney's "Coming Up". The 45 A-side contains the studio version, while the B-side features the "live in Glasgow" version. I think it's safe to say the "live" version is how everybody remembers hearing the song on the radio and therefore should be considered the "hit" version. Meanwhile there are other commercial 45 B-sides that have gone on to become the clear-cut "hit" side, such as Jimmy Dean's "Big Bad John", Righteous Brothers' "Unchained Melody", and Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive".
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Speaking of live versions on one side and studio versions on the other side -- which side is considered the hit version of Deep Purple's "Smoke On the Water" -- the studio side or live side? I remember hearing both versions on the radio back then (even though I may have heard the live version more).
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a non top 40 example of the b-side of a single being the hit/chart hit: Depeche Mode's "Behind The Wheel/Route 66" Medley - this was the B side to "Behind The Wheel"
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Todd Ireland wrote:
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A more recent one that comes to mind is Kix's "Don't Close Your Eyes" from 1989. The picture sleeve clearly states "Get it While It's Hot" a the "hit", with "Don't Close Your Eyes" as the B-side. I believe this was also mentioned on "American Top 40" at least once at the time the song was a hit.
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There are three edit points to take the studio LP version to the 7" studio single version. I'm using the version from the "She's So Unusual" CD.
#1 - Take out 8 seconds between 2:55 & 3:02, editing on the snare.
#2 - With what you have left, take out 8 seconds between 3:01 & 3:09, editing on the snare.
#3 - with what you have left, take out 44 seconds between 3:05 & 3:49.
Leaving the original LP fade, you should end up with a file which runs 4:05... Closer to 4:01 when you delete the silence at the end.
This video claims the radio edit ran even shorter than the single. It edits the commercial single version at about 1:24 & 3:02... if anybody can confirm this WAS an official radio edit, I'll find and post the exact edit points.
...And, just to stir the pot: I remember hearing the live version on one of the top 40s in Tulsa (KELI).
I remembered I didn't like it BECAUSE it was live.
Then again, their slogan was "The Music You See On MTV" so it may have been a conscious decision to play the version in the video...
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EdisonLite wrote:
Speaking of live versions on one side
and studio versions on the other side -- which side is
considered the hit version of Deep Purple's "Smoke On the
Water" -- the studio side or live side? I remember hearing
both versions on the radio back then (even though I may
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The promo
copy listed the studio version as the plug side,
though the live version got most of the airplay around
here.
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The Live Version was definitely the single version. This version was also used for the music video.
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I recall seeing the live version on MTV but hearing the
studio version on the radio. This reminds me of other
cases where airplay vs. what's on the 45 didn't match up.
Famous examples would be "The Safety Dance" and most
definitely Idol's "Mony Mony - Live" .. ha, the only time
I EVER heard that live version in 1987 was on the AT40
countdown. All stations in NY played the studio version
which had been the hit on AOR since '81.
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^ And wasn't there a bit of a reversal for Paul McCartney's "Coming Up" where radio favored the live b-side while the a-side and video were the studio recording?
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For "Coming Up" Yes the live b-side was the hit, as Todd
mentioned in an older post above.
But in that case it actually charted as "Coming Up (Live
At Glasgow)"...Whitburn even lists the studio version as
the B-side, even though when I bought the 45 it looked
pretty apparent to me and the world that the studio was
the originally intended a-side.
I'm glad the live was the hit, sounded way better to me.
Edited by MMathews on 13 March 2016 at 3:46pm
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Jim's post on page one of this strings sums it up about
"Money Changes Everything". NEITHER side was really a
hit. I recall that Epic didn't care which side that you
played, just that you played it. I didn't play either
side. I'm glad I wasn't programming against Jim!
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