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Surprise surprise. This song is in stereo. Probably rivaling the crummiest stereo ever produced, but stereo nonetheless. It appears on the vinyl LP "David Dundas" (Chrysalis CHR 1141). The stereo is apparent (if you are in a soundproof room with headphones and no children within 2 miles)at :52 seconds, when some kind of synthesized instrument jumps into the song at about 1 degree (!) to the left. And if that's not enough to shake the universe, the LP version times out at 3:18, and my promo 45 version clocks in at a tad short of 2:38. Now the question is: which one of these puppies is the single? Is the 3:18 LP version also the 45 and the 2:38 version a DJ edit? Or is the DJ version also the 45 version, which would necessitate a change in the database to denote that all the (mono)the entries are in fact, the 45 version. All I have is a promo. And a rapidly-developing headache.
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Hi Robert,
I own the commercial 45 & it's labeled 2:37.
I also own the longer album version in stereo on an import vinyl compilation album.
Believe it or not, the commercial single is also stereo, albeit a tad narrower(!) than the album.
Andy
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I forgot to mention that at least a couple of the CDs ARE dead mono (such as Rhino Have A Nice Day--Super Hits vol. 19)
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Even though the commercial copy states a running time of (2:37), what is the actual running time? And is this (2:37) version an edit of the LP or just an early fade?
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Thanks for the info, Andrew. That tells me that the 45 and DJ are the same and that the longer version is indeed the LP version. Pat, The 45 is definitely not an early fade. On the LP the verse "When I Wake Up..." appears at 2:28 and then again at 2:58. On the single it appears only once, but then I believe there is some added editing to extend the fade to where the 45 faded. The exact time on my 45 is just shy of 2:38 (2:37.962 to be exact).
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Pat Downey wrote:
| Even though the commercial copy states a running time of (2:37), what is the actual running time? |
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Pat, the actual run time is (2:34), and I can also confirm for you that my commercial 45 is in stereo.
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Can the LP version be edited to recreate the 45 version?
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Never mind, think I figured it out... :)
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Currently going through all 400 songs on Rhino's Have A Nice Day series (!) for a thread on the Steve Hoffman board, and thought I'd share what I found for "Jeans On":
From vinyl on HAND? I hear a tick/pop in the word "have" at 0:50, I hear a little crackling on the fade, and it fades to silence with no hiss. On HAND, it runs 2:34 and it's true mono. That's the 45 length, but the 45 was in in extremely narrow stereo. It's not an early fade of the LP version either - there's one edit at 2:26 inside the fade that loops an earlier vocal line for the fade, plus the 45 just slightly shortens the pause at 1:13. (The LP version keeps the beat, the 45 shortens it to less than a beat.)
MUCH better are any of the LP versions that appear on foreign compilations. The best is probably on EMI Australia's 5-CD Seventies Complete Vol. 2 (1997), where it has a nice dynamic range and has a reasonably centered soundstage. Plus, it doesn't sound like it's underwater, like HAND. The best indication that it's in true stereo is a brief synth part, panned just left of center from 0:53-0:55. Not nearly as good as the Australian collection are Disky's The Beat Goes On Vol. 9 (1997; brassy EQ, everything panned left, slightly compressed), Disky's 8-CD Wow That Was The 70's (1999; VERY brassy EQ, everything panned left, VERY compressed), and Disky's 8-CD Greatest Hits Of The '70s (2000; better EQ, soundstage centered, VERY compressed).
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crapfromthepast wrote:
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Actually, that must be a typo. There were 300 songs in that series - unless you found another 8 volumes beyond the 25 volumes they put out! :)
Edited by EdisonLite on 03 April 2010 at 9:43am
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Ack! No math on weekends! :)
Yeah, 300. It just FEELS like 400...
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I believe it was Rhino's Have A Nice Week series that had 400 songs. ;)
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The LP version of "Jeans On" also appeared on a budget disc called "A Lifetime of Music for the 21st Century, Pop Music in the 70's Vol.3". It was produced by Madacy. The bizarre thing was that it includes the long versions of Santa Esmeralda's "Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood" and Silver Convention's "Get Up and Boogie". Usually both are edits. The disc was released in the late 90's.
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here is another one that'll drive us nuts....my
commercial 45 issued as chrysalis 2094 states the run
time on the label as 2:37 and does indeed run
2:37......it sounds exactly like the version from the cd
version on "super hits of the 70's volume 19" except it
runs about 0:03 LONGER than the cd version.....the
etching in the run out groove is..."chs-2094-as-re-
1".....is it possible that there are more than one
version of this 45....can anyone else state their 45's
etching so we can figure this one out......also...my 45
sounds mono, but it could be a very, very, very narrow
stereo.....but sounds mono to me.....it sounds exactly
like the super hits of the 70's cd version, just longer
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My commercial copy agrees with Ed's.
Maybe a pressing plant variation between this and Jim's slightly shorter copy? I was living on the west coast when I picked up my copy of this.
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The version used on "Super Hits of the '70s Vol. 19" was pulled from vinyl. I'm almost certain it was faded 3 seconds merely early to hide the obvious sounds of vinyl which would be most present during the song's fade. Despite its year of release, the 45 was indeed released in mono (or I suppose virtual mono, as one person above found a sound that was 1 degree over from the center at 0:52). I don't know of any US stereo 45s. BUT ... there are several UK CDs that contain the song in stereo. However, they are longer than the US 45 and don't have the edit that occurs near the end of the US 45. I took the stereo mix on an import CD, did the one edit that was on the 45, and faded accordingly, effectively creating the version I always heard on the radio, but in nice stereo. And btw, regarding the edit, it's not a typical edit that simply snips a portion. As I recall, it goes BACK to a previous spot to repeat, "I put my blue jeans on, I put my old blue jeans on" 3 more times (which does not happen on the UK versions.)
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Jim reports a commercial 45 running time of (2:37) and Ed reports a running time of (2:34) -- do we have two different pressings of this 45?
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Pat Downey wrote:
| Jim reports a commercial 45 running time of (2:37) and Ed reports a running time of (2:34) -- do we have two different pressings of this 45? |
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Actually, it's the other way around...Jim had the slightly shorter one.
Jim...what's the matrix # on yours?
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Bringing this topic back up... I noticed Jim never
responded with his 45's matrix info.
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my commercial 45 issued as chrysalis 2094 has the run out
groove info as "CHS-2094-AS RE-1"...and it runs
2:37.....don't know where the 2:34 time came from.....pat,
my commercial 45 definetly runs 2:37.....
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