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Interesting about the 1970-1973 frequent Columbia label design changes. They sure changed them often back then. And then kept the same 1973 design for many years hence. What we really need for CD users is a Chicago singles collection using correct single edits. Too many wrong ones used on compilations.
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Hykker wrote:
| (RE: "25 Or 6 To 4")I have a promo and a stock copy of this. Both are mono. The stock copy is on what was a very short-lived label design that was apparently used for only a couple months in the summer of 1970. |
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Would that have been the all-red label with "COLUMBIA RECORDS" in white lettering, repeated around the label's perimeter? It was as if Columbia had decided it needed an updated look for the physical labels but wasn't happy with either that one, the red label with orange "COLUMBIA" used into 1972 or the 1972-early '73 gray label.
My stock copy of "25 Or 6 To 4" was a Pitman pressing on the older all-red label.
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Yah Shure wrote:
| Would that have been the all-red label with "COLUMBIA RECORDS" in white lettering, repeated around the label's perimeter? |
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Yep. Looked like this. Interestingly, mypromo copy was vinyl...I could count the number of vinyl Columbia singles I've seen on the fingers of one hand.
The promo copy we had where I worked in 1970 was a white-label version of my stock copy (IIRC the lettering around the circumference was blue on the promo). Different parts of the country got different labels???
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It was as if Columbia had decided it needed an updated look for the physical labels but wasn't happy with either that one, the red label with orange "COLUMBIA" used into 1972 or the 1972-early '73 gray label.
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Of the various temporary labels, I liked the style on my copy of 25 Or 6 To 4 the best.
While on the subject of Chicago promo singles, here's an odd item I have...an (apparent) re-issue of "Beginnings" with the album version on one side in stereo and the mono 45 version on the other. Judging by the catalog #, it appears to have been a promo-only release. The "black sun" on the label dates it from around '74-75. It also is vinyl.
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Hykker wrote:
While on the subject of Chicago promo singles, here's an
odd item I have...an (apparent) re-issue of "Beginnings"
with the
n-lv.jpg">album version on one side in stereo and
the mono
n-sv.jpg">45 version on the other. Judging by the
catalog #, it appears to have been a promo-only release.
The "black sun" on the label dates it from around '74-75.
It also is vinyl.
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Steve, I have that very same 'oddity' promo 45, having
purchased it within the last year or so. Near mint, and
obviously purchased to get the '45' version of
"Beginnings."
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The oddity promo I believe was issued to radio in late 1975 to promote Chicago's Greatest Hits. I'm pretty sure 25 to 6 to 4 was one of the 45s included, but that had the full stereo version on one side and another Chicago song on the other. I think several 45s came in a box resembling a reel to reel tape box, With the Chicago Greatest Hits Album cover on the box, with all the cuts from the album represented as 45s (or at least several).I think they did this to make it easy for radio stations that played 45s to feature these songs as the album was a huge Christmas present item in 1975. They wanted to make sure that stations had fresh copies of the tracks.
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Bill Cahill wrote:
| The oddity promo I believe was issued to radio in late 1975 to promote Chicago's Greatest Hits. |
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I sort of suspected that myself. You'd think though that they'd note the song as being from the GH album, not the CTA album if it was a tie in with the GH.
I forget exactly where/when I got this single, but I think it was sometime the 80s.
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Hykker wrote:
Yah Shure wrote:
Would that have
been the all-red label with "COLUMBIA RECORDS" in
white lettering, repeated around the label's
perimeter? |
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Yep. Looked like
/25or6to4-stock.jpg">this. Interestingly,
myer/25or6to4-promo.jpg">promo copy was
vinyl...I could count the number of vinyl Columbia
singles I've seen on the fingers of one hand.
The promo copy we had where I worked in 1970 was a
white-label version of my stock copy (IIRC the
lettering around the circumference was blue on the
promo). Different parts of the country got
different labels???
Quote:
It was as if Columbia had decided it needed an
updated look for the physical labels but wasn't
happy with either that one, the red label with
orange "COLUMBIA" used into 1972 or the 1972-early
'73 gray label.
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Of the various temporary labels, I liked the style
on my copy of 25 Or 6 To 4 the best.
While on the subject of Chicago promo singles,
here's an odd item I have...an (apparent) re-issue
of "Beginnings" with the
/beginn-lv.jpg">album version on one side in
stereo and the mono
/beginn-sv.jpg">45 version on the other.
Judging by the catalog #, it appears to have been a
promo-only release. The "black sun" on the label
dates it from around '74-75. It also is vinyl.
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The long version is the 6:28 length one!!
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Yes I believe that "Beginnings" was part of that box of
singles that went to radio stations to promote Greatest
Hits. Label times of 2:47 and 6:28. I believe they used
the 1969 mastering of the single edit for this re-issue
promo. What's different: For 1971's single release, they
printed the label time as 2:45, and the intro features
bottom end distortion around :04, not heard on the 1969
release. Not sure why that happened.
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Several years ago, I also purchased that white label,
black sun Chicago promo 45 for "Beginnings." It's
labeled as single version with a listed time of 2:47 and
is mono. The other side is listed as 6:28 and in stereo.
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My copy is also vinyl. It's labeled as being from the
Columbia LP, Chicago Transit Authority.
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