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This regards the 1984 release, not the '89 remix. (3:52) is the stated and actual run time on the promo 45, which says (Long Version) on it. This is the same version that's on the stock 45. The flip has a stated time of (3:02) but actually runs (3:04), and says (Short Version) on it. (Deadwax: MC-14700EE.)
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Good info., Jim! Do you know if promo DJ 45 copies of the "Send Me an Angel '89" remix contained a short edit as well?
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Todd: My "Send Me An Angel '89" promo 45 has the exact same everything on both sides of it. A listed time of (3:50), just like the listed Whitburn time. In case you want to compare my promo deadwax # with a 45 you might have, it is CR614A1E/A. I also have a Promo CD single for it, Todd. (CURB CD45-10303). 2 tracks are on it: 1-Another appearance of the (3:50) version, which curiously says (Edit) here. That word appeared nowhere on my promo 45 for it. Perhaps they felt the need to clarify on the Promo CD single, since Cut 2 is a (Dance Mix), with a listed time of (6:15). Since the whole premise of the '89 release was "remix", I believe it logical to assume that the (3:50) version comes from the (6:15) version. I have no evidence of a version put out on this that was any shorter than (3:50).
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Anybody know what edits are needed to make the '84 / 3:52 version match the 3:04 Short promo Version, or is it a remix?
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It's an edit. Don't recall the edit points, but I'll try to send it over. I'm positive I re-created it a while back.
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I appreciate that, Aaron.
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The actual LP running time is (3:51), with the listed time "3:53" on the LP record label. (title "Heart Land" Curb/MCA MCA-5459)
The commercial 45 speed is slightly slower than the LP speed. (the 45 runs (3:52))
Also, "Give Up" after "Don't give up" once at 1:44 on the commercial 45
The LP's "Give Up" seven or eight times from 1:44 to 1:48 by a echo effect on the "Heart Land" vinyl LP like the '89 version.
In addition, the reflect echo at the ending is differ entirely between two.
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Can someone pass on those edits please.
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Not sure if Indy500 ever had his question answered... but I'm bumping this up in the hope that someone can provide editing instructions for the 3:04 version please.
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Yes, please. Short edit instructions.
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The 45 version sounds great on Rhino's Just Can't Get Enough Vol. 11 (1995), where it runs 3:53 and 129.4 BPM throughout. There's a differently-EQ'd digital clone on Time-Life's 2-CD Modern Rock Vol. 15 Lost Hits Of The Mid '80s (2001). The same analog transfer is also used for Warner Special Products' 2-CD sets Punk (1996) and Sweet Love (1996), which are differently-EQ'd digital clones of each other. All sound very good.
There's a severely muffled version on Sony Germany's 2-CD Pop And Wave Vol. 1 (1992), which also has its left/right channels reversed. Avoid.
The database says that the LP version runs 3:51. I don't know what the difference is between the LP and 45 versions.
The version on Sony's Richard Blade's Flashback Favorites Vol. 5 runs 5:41. This is probably the 1983 12 inch single version, which has a printed time of 5:40. (It's not the 1989 version.)
The promo 45 has an edit that runs 3:04. Here are editing instructions for recreating the promo 45 from the commercial 45 version on Just Can't Get Enough Vol. 11:
Segment 1
Extends from 0:00.0 to 0:37.0 of the commercial 45 and promo 45
Ends on a snare hit
Remove the 40 beats from 0:37.0 to 0:55.6 of the commercial 45.
Segment 2
Begins on a snare hit
Extends from 0:37.0 to 2:43.6 of the promo 45
Extends from 0:55.6 to 3:02.2 of the commercial 45
Ends on a downbeat-with-handclap
Remove the 64 beats from 3:02.2 to 3:31.8 of the commercial 45.
Segment 3
Begins on a on a downbeat-with-handclap
Extends from 2:43.6 to 3:08.0 (end) of the promo 45
Extends from 3:31.8 to 3:56.3 (end) of the commercial 45
Your mixdown will run 3:05 (excluding outro silence), or 3:08.0 (including outro silence), with edits at 0:37.0 and 2:43.6.
Edited by crapfromthepast on 15 June 2015 at 5:19am
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Many thanks, Ron!
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