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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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Posted: 12 March 2007 at 5:49pm | IP Logged
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Here's a fairly strange case... Cassette single copies of Cheap Trick's "Can't Stop Falling into Love" run 3:48 and state "Radio Mix" on the cardboard sleeve. To my ears though, this mix sounds virtually identical to the version on the band's Busted CD (Epic 46013), which would be considered the LP version. Back in the early '90s, record labels were commonly issuing heavily remixed and revamped versions of Top 40 songs on commercial single releases that were radically different from the familiar versions played on radio. At first, I just figured the "Radio Mix" description for "Can't Stop Falling into Love" on the cassette single was simply to let consumers know they were getting the familiar hit version and not some unexpected remix.
I later came across a promo CD single release for this song on Epic ESK 73444 and it contains the following track listing and actual run times:
1) Radio Mix - 3:48
2) LP version - 3:48
I've conducted a thorough A/B comparison between the two tracks and, aside from ever-so-slightly louder electric guitars on the LP version in a couple of short spots in the song, the two versions are virtually identical to my ears!
Has anybody else been able to distinguish any other differences between the single version (a.k.a. "Radio Mix") and the LP version of "Can't Stop Falling into Love"? If not, it seems really odd to me that Epic would go through the trouble of issuing a "Radio Mix" that sounds essentially indistinguishable from the LP version and include both tracks on the promo CD single release. At any rate, it would probably be a good idea to have this information documented in the database so that readers aren't fooled into buying the commercial or promo single thinking they're getting something noticeably different than the LP version.
Edited by Todd Ireland on 12 March 2007 at 5:53pm
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crapfromthepast MusicFan
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Posted: 13 December 2007 at 6:57pm | IP Logged
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Todd - My commercial 45 says "Radio Mix", and I, too A/B'ed every version I found, and can't hear a difference.
I listened to the 1991 Greatest Hits, the 2004 Essential, a Schwartz Brothers CD Sampler (that probably has the Busted version), and a Time-Life Guitar Rock collection that has a re-EQ'd digital clone of the Greatest Hits, and they all sound the same to my ears.
My only clue, if you can call it that, is that the "Mixed by Mike Shipley" credit on the 45 label is also on the 1991 Greatest Hits CD. (Don't have the Essential notes, so can't tell which it is.)
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Posted: 07 July 2024 at 8:20pm | IP Logged
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The "Radio Mix" and the "LP version" on the promo CD singles are mixed ever-so-slightly differently.
There are instances where a bass drum hit or a snare is brought forward or pulled back. (I only noticed because the tracks stay aligned throughout in a null test. It's not at all obvious to my ears.)
One example: Listen at 0:26, during the line "cool young dude", the bass drum hit on the word "dude" seems to be emphasized a bit more in the "Radio Mix".
This is super nit-picky, for sure, but I'm now convinced that the two mixes aren't identical.
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Posted: 08 July 2024 at 7:13am | IP Logged
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Radio Mix
Found on vinyl 45 Epic 34-73444 ("Radio Mix" is printed on the label but I haven't confirmed the audio)
Found on track 1 of promo CD single Epic ESK 73444
Found on promo various-artists sampler called Schwartz Brothers Compact Disc Sampler Vol. 6 (1990). It's the same analog transfer as the CD single, but not a digital clone. It runs out to the same point in the song as the promo CD single (not an early fade or a truncated fade).
Found on The Epic Archive, Vol. 3 (1984-1992) (2015) - level-shifted digital clone (no EQ difference) of promo CD single. It runs out to the same point in the song as the promo CD single (not an early fade or a truncated fade). This is probably your best bet at hunting down the Radio Mix.
LP Version
Found on track 2 of promo CD single Epic ESK 73444
Found on full-length Cheap Trick CD Busted (1990) (I have a download from Qobuz, not the original CD; seems to be the same as best as I can tell)
Found on Greatest Hits (1991) - differently EQ'd digital clone of Busted
Found on Time-Life's Guitar Rock Vol. 25 The '90s (1996) - differently EQ'd digital clone of Busted
Found on 2-CD Essential (2004) - differently EQ'd digital clone of Busted
Found on TM Century track no. 00005924 - same analog transfer but not a digital clone of either the promo CD single or Busted
Edited by crapfromthepast on 08 July 2024 at 7:22am
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