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Posted: 06 July 2021 at 7:22pm | IP Logged Quote promojunkie
This may be a long shot. Orion The Hunter was a flash in
the pan 1980s offshoot of the band Boston. It featured
former Boston members Barry Goudreau, Brad Delp and Fran
Cosmo. The song So You Ran did better on rock radio (top
10) and was a mid-chart hit on Billboard 100 in 1984
(peak #58).    I'd like to recreate the 45 version.
There is an official video on youtube but I am not sure
if that is the correct 45 once you cut the first 24
seconds. It's also pitched faster by about 2% vs the LP
version. Perhaps someone has this 45 and can shoot me a
dub or provide the edit points?

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Posted: 07 July 2021 at 8:29am | IP Logged Quote ChicagoBill
My stock copy (Portrait 37-04493) states 3:47, but runs 3:46.3 (Close enough, but I add that tenth of a second in
case the single version ever becomes available). I would shoot you out a dub of the single if I ever figure out how
to e-mail a 38 MB .Wav file! -Bill.
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Posted: 07 July 2021 at 8:42am | IP Logged Quote promojunkie
Bill, thank you for the info. At least I now I know
that the run time of the single is accurate.

Edited by promojunkie on 07 July 2021 at 8:49am

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Posted: 07 July 2021 at 5:17pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg
From what I can gather, and I didn't take notes, there are
2 edits and AN out-of-sequence edit and an early fade on
the out-of-sequence edit.

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Posted: 08 July 2021 at 2:46pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg
So I had one of the members of the forum listen to the
quick edits I did with the LP version. Turns out the 45
version can't be recreated from the LP version. According
to him, "Unfortunately, the 45 version can not be recreated
from the LP version. Listen to the dub of the 45 at 2:37 -
the "ooh"s (and a tambourine accent) begin on the start of
the final verse - those vocals are missing when that verse
starts on the LP version. There may be more mix
differences, I just did a random spot check."

So, you'll need a mint 45 dub to add the 45 version to your
collection.

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Posted: 08 July 2021 at 3:05pm | IP Logged Quote promojunkie
John,

Thanks for creating an edit and having it checked out.
Much appreciated. Since my original post, I was able to
get a very muffled mp3 which I think is the 45 since the
track duration matches. I used it to recreate the the
edit. I'm assuming the person who listened to your edit
has the 45 to compare? If possible, I'd like for them
to listen to my edit and let me know if it matches the
45 dub.

Edited by promojunkie on 08 July 2021 at 9:07pm

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ChicagoBill wrote:
My stock copy (Portrait 37-04493) states 3:47, but runs 3:46.3 (Close enough, but I add that tenth of a second in
case the single version ever becomes available). I would shoot you out a dub of the single if I ever figure out how
to e-mail a 38 MB .Wav file! -Bill.


If you have that 45 can you send it along. Would be helpful.

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Posted: 25 October 2024 at 7:11pm | IP Logged Quote PopArchivist
promojunkie wrote:
John,

Thanks for creating an edit and having it checked out.
Much appreciated. Since my original post, I was able to
get a very muffled mp3 which I think is the 45 since the
track duration matches. I used it to recreate the the
edit. I'm assuming the person who listened to your edit
has the 45 to compare? If possible, I'd like for them
to listen to my edit and let me know if it matches the
45 dub.


I need this too. Apparently what I put into my jukebox isnt the 45 version. If no one has it I will ask Aaron for it.

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Posted: 26 October 2024 at 3:03pm | IP Logged Quote ChicagoBill
Richie, Check your email. I'm not used to sending files via
email and to add I have HORRIBLE internet. If you can,
report back to me if it came through OK and if the quality
of the file is good. -Bill.

Edited by ChicagoBill on 26 October 2024 at 3:06pm
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Posted: 26 October 2024 at 9:31pm | IP Logged Quote PopArchivist
ChicagoBill wrote:
Richie, Check your email. I'm not used to sending files via
email and to add I have HORRIBLE internet. If you can,
report back to me if it came through OK and if the quality
of the file is good. -Bill.


I got it thanks. And yea its not bad. You can tell the end is from vinyl. But otherwise thank you!

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I have a copy of the promo 12" with the "Short Version" as the first track. Listed & actual time is 4:18, and this is an edit of the LP mix. It's not the remix found on the 45.

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Posted: 29 October 2024 at 9:22am | IP Logged Quote promojunkie
I'm a bit confused about this one. I recreated this song a
while back and and just did an a/b comparison with 45 dub
that Bill sent and my recreation. I don't hear any
difference other than an eq difference from the cd version
vs the vinyl cut. Am I missing something? Maybe what I
hear as an eq difference is actually a slight remix
difference?   Someone also mentioned there was a section
with unique audio.

Edited by promojunkie on 29 October 2024 at 9:52am

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Posted: 29 October 2024 at 10:57am | IP Logged Quote aaronk
Yes, the 45 is remixed. For example, at 1:04 and 1:08 there are tamborine hits on the 45 remix that are missing from the LP version. As another example, at 2:37, there are "ooohs" (background vocals) that are absent on the same spot in the LP version.

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Posted: 29 October 2024 at 1:04pm | IP Logged Quote promojunkie
ahh, ok. I just listened again and I missed those
tambourine hits when I recreated this a few years ago.

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