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Posted: 26 January 2014 at 11:12pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Ron, if you can forward the file to me, I'll take a listen. Of all the cd
sources I've heard with vinyl dubs, I think my own vinyl dub trumps
them all. Jim was kind enough to provide a mint LP, as well as some
pristine 45 copies as the sources, which I patched together to make my
master file.

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Posted: 27 January 2014 at 9:46pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Just listened to the file, and if this was taken from vinyl, my ears can't tell. The only bummer is that it's in mono and a little heavy on the bass.

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Posted: 09 February 2014 at 6:13pm | IP Logged Quote KentT

Every CD source of this is needledrops. Never heard one
from tape. Wonder if the Boardwalk 45 is from tape sources
itself? Might be part of the mystery. I figure the monoing
is being done to hide vinyl artifacts and the early fades.

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Posted: 11 February 2014 at 11:56pm | IP Logged Quote Yah Shure

aaronk wrote:
Just listened to the file, and if this was taken from vinyl, my ears can't tell. The only bummer is that it's in mono and a little heavy on the bass.


Aaron, from what Ron described (fades out a second or two early) and your own comment about the prominent bass, it sounds like that file is a needledrop of the ASI 45, summed to mono and pitched slower to match the speed of the Boardwalk 45.

The ASI's bass response just rocks, and although I've never heard the Boardwalk release, my guess is that the bottom end was toned down on it. When I did my own ASI needledrop, I ended up summing it to mono, having spent entirely too much time trying to de-rumble the intro while still maintaining stereo separation. The summed result was as quiet as could be.
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Posted: 12 February 2014 at 2:24am | IP Logged Quote The Hits Man

I have always felt that this song sounded unnatural on
CD, as if it was NR'ed, and, if the only source of it was
from Original Sound, it likely was.

In the mid-80s, Priority Records and Original Sound CDs
used Hark Waring's "Full Dimensional Sound", or FDS, an
elaborate system used to de-noise tapes. The system had
the effect of removing every bit of noise from tapes, or
whatever source, and, as a result, left them sounding
hard and cold.

Other songs that have somewhat similar sonic
characteristics as "Together" on CD are "Precious And
Few" by Climax and "Show And Tell" by Al Wilson.
Curiously, those tracks also showed up on other Original
Sound "Oldies But Goodies" CD volumes.

The Priority "Baby Boomer Classics" CDs the FDS NR was
used on sounded even worse.

This thread has made me determined to find the Boardwalk
45 of "Together", as I dug up the original Carousel 45 of
"Precious and Few", and sound a download of "Show And
tell" that sounds much more like I remember it from 1973.

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Posted: 22 April 2014 at 2:26pm | IP Logged Quote KentT

I'd try to go for an ASI 45 of "Together" myself. Why not
go for the original.

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