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my commercial 45 for the ramsey lewis song 'wade in the
water' issued as cadet 5541 lists the run time on the
label as 3:05 but actually runs 3:15 i have a 3:46 running
version on cdr that if you fade for 0:11 from 3:04 to 3:15
you can effectively re-create the vinyl 45
version......pat, this entry may want to be revised as lp
length not lp version......unless this is one of those
instances where the it's the lp length but lp version
because of where the fade starts....i always get these
confused....
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I'm going on the assumption that the track from MCA's Vintage Music Vols. 15 & 16 CD is identical to the vinyl LP track, since I don't have the vinyl LP to compare. Please correct me if that is not the case.
There is an approximately 3.883-second portion of my stock Cadet 5541 45 that does not match the aforementioned Vintage Music CD track. It occurs just before the 45 begins to fade. After summing the CD track to mono and speeding it up slightly to match it to the 45, then comparing the 45 in one channel against the summed CD track in the other, everything sounds identical right up until the 2:58.503 mark.
At that point, some piano noodling appears on the 45, but not on the CD, and just before the 3:01.386 point where the two sources mesh once again, there's a piano note that appears only on the CD track. There are also some percussion differences during this brief segment. The effect is as though the track suddenly switches from mono to true stereo for those three seconds, then reverts to mono before the 45 begins to fade. It would appear that this brief segment is sourced from different takes between the 45 and CD.
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good catch yah shure, i just went back and re-view the
track again and sure enough, there is a very small
difference at that mark.....i'll try and track down the
lone cd that has the correct 45 version, al beit slightly
longer.....
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