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Posted: 13 June 2007 at 10:58am | IP Logged Quote CollectoMan
Hello

As the second part of my research, I need to verify the play times for the following 45s.

These 45s I do not have.

Does anyone know the acutual 45 play times for the following songs? I listed the artist, name, Whitburn time and label for each song.

Thank you again for your help.
Chris

1) Lee Andrews & the Hearts - Try The Impossible - 2:52 - United Artists 123
2) Renato Carosone - Torero - 2:50 - Capitol 71080
3) Ken Copeland - Pledge Of Love - 2:05 - Imperial 5432
4) Tommy Edwards - It's All In The Game - 2:25 - MGM 12688
5) Five Satins - In The Still Of The Nite - 2:30 - Ember 1005
6) Georgia Gibbs - Happiness Street - 2:15 - Mercury 70920
7) Georgia Gibbs - I Want You To Be My Baby - 2:20 - Mercury 70685
8) Georgia Gibbs - Sweet And Gentle - 2:20 - Mercury 70647
9) Harvey and the Moonglows - Ten Commandments Of Love - 2:43 - Chess 1705
10) Hilltoppers - Only You (And You Alone) - 2:01 - Dot 15423
11) Sonny Knight - Confidential - 1:55 - Dot 15507
12) Jim Lowe - Talkin' To The Blues - 1:48 - Dot 15569
13) Vaughn Monroe - In The Middle Of The House - 2:00 - RCA 6619
14) Mormon Tabernacle Choir - Battle Hymn Of The Republic - 3:11 - Columbia 41459
15) Olympics - Western Movies - 2:00 - Demon 1508
16) Quin-Tones - Down The Aisle Of Love - 2:39 - Hunt 321
17) Cyril Stapleton & His Orch. - The Children's Marching Song - 2:20 - London 1851
18) Billy Vaughn & His Orch. - Th. From 'Three Penny Opera' (Moritat) - 2:15 - Dot 15444
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Posted: 15 June 2007 at 7:19am | IP Logged Quote CollectoMan
Hello

I have been provided some updates to this. I have been sent several of these 45's songs with their labels since this was posted a couple days ago.

The song's 45 play times have now been identified as listed below.

take care
Chris

Updates:

Lee Andrews & the Hearts - Try The Impossible - United Artists 123 - Play time is 3:04
Georgia Gibbs - I Want You To Be My Baby - Mercury 70685 - Play time is 2:27
Georgia Gibbs - Sweet And Gentle - Mercury 70647 - Play time is 2:28
Harvey and the Moonglows - Ten Commandments Of Love - Chess 1705 - Play time is 3:03
Hilltoppers - Only You (And You Alone) - Dot 15423 - Play time is 2:42
Vaughn Monroe - In The Middle Of The House - RCA 6619 - Play time is 2:21
Mormon Tabernacle Choir - Battle Hymn Of The Republic - Columbia 41459 - Play time is 3:11
Cyril Stapleton & His Orch. - The Children's Marching Song - London 1851 - Play time is 2:18

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Posted: 15 June 2007 at 8:08am | IP Logged Quote Paul C
The following are the running times of my original U.S. 45s unless otherwise noted. I don't have a more sophisticated timing device than my clock on the wall, so these may be off by a second or two.

Renato Carosone - Torero - running time 2:59 (label says 2:50);
Ken Copeland - Pledge of Love - running time 2:17 (label says 2:05);
Tommy Edwards - It's All In The Game [1958 version] - running time 2:36 (label says 2:25);
Georgia Gibbs - Happiness Street - running time 2:32 (label says 2:15) - An aside on this one: on my 45 I hear a significant extraneous noise (tape damage?) at about 0:10 that is also present on the Mercury best of CD. I figured this noise must be on the master tape, but I was surprised to find the noise is not present on the recent Hit Parade/Eric Georgia Gibbs compilation.;
Jim Lowe - Talking To The Blues - running time 2:28 (label says 1:48);
Billy Vaughn - Th. from Three Penny Opera (original U.S. 78) - running time 2:24.

I see I've been beaten to the punch on a couple of others I have. Georgia Gibbs' 'I Want You To Be My Baby' states an incorrect time of 2:20 and the Harvey & The Moonglows' 45 gives an incorrect time of 2:43. Can anyone confirm that the LP version of 'Ten Commandments Of Love' is longer than the 45 but otherwise identical?
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Posted: 15 June 2007 at 1:00pm | IP Logged Quote CollectoMan
Paul C wrote:
The following are the running times of my original U.S. 45s unless otherwise noted. I don't have a more sophisticated timing device than my clock on the wall, so these may be off by a second or two.

Renato Carosone - Torero - running time 2:59 (label says 2:50);
Ken Copeland - Pledge of Love - running time 2:17 (label says 2:05);
Tommy Edwards - It's All In The Game [1958 version] - running time 2:36 (label says 2:25);
Georgia Gibbs - Happiness Street - running time 2:32 (label says 2:15) - An aside on this one: on my 45 I hear a significant extraneous noise (tape damage?) at about 0:10 that is also present on the Mercury best of CD. I figured this noise must be on the master tape, but I was surprised to find the noise is not present on the recent Hit Parade/Eric Georgia Gibbs compilation.;
Jim Lowe - Talking To The Blues - running time 2:28 (label says 1:48);
Billy Vaughn - Th. from Three Penny Opera (original U.S. 78) - running time 2:24.

I see I've been beaten to the punch on a couple of others I have. Georgia Gibbs' 'I Want You To Be My Baby' states an incorrect time of 2:20 and the Harvey & The Moonglows' 45 gives an incorrect time of 2:43. Can anyone confirm that the LP version of 'Ten Commandments Of Love' is longer than the 45 but otherwise identical?


Thank you Paul!!

I sure appreciate you taking the time and effort to look at these 45s

Let me know if you want anything from me

take care
Chris
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Posted: 08 October 2009 at 1:00pm | IP Logged Quote smvceo
Paul C wrote:
The following are the running times of my original U.S. 45s unless otherwise noted. I don't have a more sophisticated timing device than my clock on the wall, so these may be off by a second or two.

Renato Carosone - Torero - running time 2:59 (label says 2:50);
Ken Copeland - Pledge of Love - running time 2:17 (label says 2:05);
Tommy Edwards - It's All In The Game [1958 version] - running time 2:36 (label says 2:25);
Georgia Gibbs - Happiness Street - running time 2:32 (label says 2:15) - An aside on this one: on my 45 I hear a significant extraneous noise (tape damage?) at about 0:10 that is also present on the Mercury best of CD. I figured this noise must be on the master tape, but I was surprised to find the noise is not present on the recent Hit Parade/Eric Georgia Gibbs compilation.;
Jim Lowe - Talking To The Blues - running time 2:28 (label says 1:48);
Billy Vaughn - Th. from Three Penny Opera (original U.S. 78) - running time 2:24.

I see I've been beaten to the punch on a couple of others I have. Georgia Gibbs' 'I Want You To Be My Baby' states an incorrect time of 2:20 and the Harvey & The Moonglows' 45 gives an incorrect time of 2:43. Can anyone confirm that the LP version of 'Ten Commandments Of Love' is longer than the 45 but otherwise identical?


Allow me to point out that every CD offering "Ten Commandments of Love" does not provide the 45 version but an alternate take!
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Posted: 27 February 2013 at 10:36pm | IP Logged Quote davidclark
for 'Ten Commandments Of Love', I believe I have recreated the 45 using
the LP version source (from Ace The Golden Age Of American Rock'n'Roll
Vol. 6) using a dub someone sent me. Not too difficult, as the edits occur
towards the end. That LP version source (assuming it is correct...) has a
strange, cut-off word at 2:45 right before the first edit.

The excellent BSN discography goes so far as to indicate the run times of
the song on various LPs. It would seem that the original LP length was the
same as the 45, appearing in 1959 on Chess LP-1430 "Look! It's the
Moonglows". A 3:56 version shows up on the "Golden Gassers"
series of LPs in 1961 (it is not indicated as to whether or not this is an
alternate take). The 3:38 version shows up on LP-1471 "Best of Bobby
Lester and the Moonglows" in 1962. Then there's the drums overdub
version....sheesh!

Does anyone have any of these LPs to take a listen?

So, how shall we label this one? The 45 has yet to appear on a US CD.

Edited by davidclark on 27 February 2013 at 10:37pm

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