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Posted: 13 February 2006 at 9:01pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40
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the actual run time of the 45 is 4:34 and NOT 4:26 as stated of the 45's label..

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Posted: 21 February 2012 at 11:59pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
The database currently states the following general comment for Chicago's "Wishing You Were Here":

(dj copies of this 45 ran (2:54) and (4:26); commercial copies were all (4:34) not (4:26) as stated on the record label)

Given the discrepancy between the printed and actual commercial 45 times, I suspect that the long DJ 45 length of 4:26 is probably the printed label time but not the actual run time. And considering the lone database CD appearance of the short DJ edit runs 2:59, it's very possible the database's listed 2:54 time for the short DJ 45 side is inaccurate as well. So does anyone have a copy of the "Wishing You Were Here" DJ 45 who can report the actual run time of both sides?

Edited by Todd Ireland on 22 February 2012 at 12:03am
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Posted: 22 February 2012 at 2:19pm | IP Logged Quote Yah Shure
DJ 45 actual timings:

short version (3:03) (2:54 listed)

long version (4:34) (4:26 listed)

Edited by Yah Shure on 22 February 2012 at 2:22pm
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Posted: 22 February 2012 at 3:42pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
Thanks, Yah Shure!
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Posted: 22 February 2012 at 7:18pm | IP Logged Quote Hykker
Yah Shure wrote:

short version (3:03) (2:54 listed)


Mine timed out to 3:00 exactly.
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Posted: 22 February 2012 at 8:13pm | IP Logged Quote Yah Shure
Steve, I just double-checked mine and it still came out to 3:03. That's with the fade-in and fade-out maximized in the wav editor to pinpoint the exact start and end; however, for all practical purposes - i.e. carting it up for radio play in 1974 - 3:00 would be the more realistic figure.

Perhaps there's a difference in the promo pressings. Mine's a Terre Haute copy, although its typical "TI" designation is etched only on the long version side of this one.
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I created a file running 3:03 using the 40th Anniversary
short version and part of the intro/the ending from the
longer version.
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Posted: 24 February 2012 at 6:43am | IP Logged Quote Hykker
Yah Shure wrote:

Perhaps there's a difference in the promo pressings. Mine's a Terre Haute copy, although its typical "TI" designation is etched only on the long version side of this one.


My copy does seem to be from another plant..."short version" is in a different font, and the "black sun" (or whatever that is) is in a different place. Then again since both the surf intro and the sustained ending fade slowly, maybe the :03 difference just gets lost in surface noise (surface noise on a Columbia single...who 'da thunk? ).

Not up on my pressing plant codes, but mine has a TMS-S stamped in the run-out area on the short version side and TMS-M on the long version. Both sides are stereo.
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TMS I think is actually TML (The Mastering Lab) mastering studios in California. S and M are lathe codes. Doug Sax being their best known mastering engineer.

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