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I noticed in the database that all CDs with the 45 version of this song are listed as "poor stereo separation" including Rhino, a lable that is usually great at getting proper single edits/mixes. I wonder - does the actual 45 also have this same poor stereo separation?
And are there mix differences on the 45? Or can the wide-separation version on the album be edited to be like the single (albeit with wider separation)? If so, that version, to me, would be the version I'd like to hear.
Also, while on the subject of Alice Cooper top 40 hits - I've seen one of his hits listed with two different spellings - "Hello Hooray" and "Hello Hurray". Did both spellings appear on various incarnations of the 45? Or was one on the album and the other on the single? I believe I've seen both spellings for a long time and don't think this is a case of a new/'90s misspelling. Jim, would you know the answer to this one?
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Gordon, both my commercial and long/short promo 45s for this song (WB 7673) spell the title "Hello Hurray". I also just today received my brand new Record Research "Top Pop Singles" book (1955-2008), and the same spelling of this song's title also appears there. Love the new book; another winner for Mr. Whitburn, our own Paul Haney & Co.!
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Interesting, Jim. Thanks! Does anyone know when the "Hello Hooray" spelling started showing up? It's on Rhino's "Alice Cooper - Best Of..." as "Hooray" and I know I've also seen it that way for quite a while.
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I wonder if Alice accidentally spelled it that way at first, later realizing it's close to the word "Hurry" and that no one spells it his way, and that he later wanted it changed, perhaps during the CD era. Just speculation.
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EdisonLite wrote:
| Interesting, Jim. Thanks! Does anyone know when the "Hello Hooray" spelling started showing up? |
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Must have been by 1974...my vinyl GH album (which I had him autograph when he did a station appearance) shows "Hooray".
Then again, it could be one of those AC songs where the album & single version titles were slightly different. "Only Women" and "Eighteen" are a couple that come to mind.
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No-one answered the original questions regarding "Only Women". Does
anyone have the 45 to listen to the mix and the separation?
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davidclark wrote:
| No-one answered the original questions regarding "Only Women". Does anyone have the 45 to listen to the mix and the separation? |
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I do. Both the stereo side of the DJ 45 and the stock 45 have the same "poor" stereo separation issues.
As for the mix, there are a couple of very minor variations resulting from summing all the channels together for comparison purposes. But they're not worth sweating over.
The one difference that is significant comes near the very end of the record. Between the final "aaaah-aaaahhhh" and the last note, there is an approximately 1.57-second ascending guitar on the 45. This ascending guitar is somewhat buried in the left channel of the LP track. Increase the volume of that little left channel segment by an extra 75 percent, and you'll have a close-enough approximation of the 45, once the speeds are matched (when edited to match the 45, the LP track does run a bit faster.)
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Thanks for shedding some light on this, Yah Shure. It's good to know the poor stereo separation found on all database CDs containing the 45 version of Alice Cooper's "Only Women" is evidently how the song sounded on the 45 master tapes and is not the result of some botched engineering job for CD.
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yes, thanks Yah Shure. I was beginning to wonder if anyone was gonna reply
on this one, which was definitely needed for this hit
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