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EdisonLite
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Posted: 22 October 2004 at 7:09am \| IP Logged

It seems that the famous version of Johnny Nash's "Stir It Up" (the remix that was released AFTER "I Can See Clearly Now" was a hit, not the earlier one) has never been on a US CD. I heard an mp3 a few years ago that was the remix, and it did not sound like it came from cleaned up vinyl -- so I was wondering if anyone knows of any import CDs that have this remix.

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Posted: 24 February 2006 at 5:33am \| IP Logged

Hi there,

I believe that the Time Life CD "Sounds Of The Seventies 1973: Take Two" contains the hit 45. Sounds like it to me. Pat, Please take a listen again and see what you think.

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Posted: 24 February 2006 at 6:38am \| IP Logged

Yes I agree that is the hit version and the database has been changed to reflect this. Thanks for your input David.

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Posted: 24 February 2006 at 5:49pm \| IP Logged

What's the difference?

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Posted: 24 February 2006 at 7:14pm \| IP Logged

the 1973 (hit) 45 is a different mix and contains a sound (not sure what, but it starts at :15) and extra background vocals during the chorus not present in the original 45/LP version

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Posted: 24 February 2006 at 11:07pm \| IP Logged

davidclark wrote:

the 1973 (hit) 45 is a different mix and contains a sound (not sure what, but it starts at :15) and extra background vocals during the chorus not present in the original 45/LP version

I'll see if I still have my copy on the yellow Epic label.

LATER: OK, I do have it, but I have to go into a closet and pull out hundreds of 45s in a big box. I'm not prepared to do that tonight. All I can tell you is that it must be the original pressing because it is the same as the one found on the Rock Artifacts CD volume 2 (?).

Edited by Grant on 24 February 2006 at 11:27pm

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Epic re-serviced the promo 45 to radio stations, telling us that it was a new mix, and that's the one I have (we never did play it). Dead wax number reads 156881 1-C.

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Posted: 25 May 2007 at 10:31pm \| IP Logged

My Epic 10949 hit version commercial 45 has a listed time of (3:09), but an actual time of (3:01), exactly as its lone 45v database appearance (the Time/Life 1973: Take Two V/A CD) does.

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Posted: 27 May 2007 at 9:53pm \| IP Logged

actually, the re-release 45 of "stir it up" has a lot of weird percussion stuff going on, and the first time i heard it on American Top 40 it blew my mind and i immediately went out and bought a copy... if anyone is interested, i will shoot them a copy, and just for the record, so to speak, it was on the orange epic label of the mid-seventies, not the yellow one...

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Posted: 27 May 2007 at 10:50pm \| IP Logged

Jrjr, the 1973 re-release of "Stir It Up" came out just as Epic was switching over from the yellow to the orange label, and I happen to have 2 1973 commercial copies of it: one copy features the yellow label, and the other copy features the orange label. The same 1973 situation exists for both Clint Holmes' "Playground In My Mind", and the Edgar Winter Group's "Frankenstein." Pressing plants are often instructed to "use up" the old label design paper before starting with the new, which sometimes caused overlap. I probably have over 100 hit commercial 45s, on two different label designs, so it's actually not all that incredibly uncommon.

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I heard this song on an old AT40 this weekend, and it seemed to be a 3rd mix. It was very close to the LP mix but near the end, there seemed to be some lead vocals missing and you could only hear the background vocals (like on "little darling"). Does anyone know of this 3rd mix and what it's from? I'm pretty sure those leads weren't muted in the LP version.

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Posted: 13 May 2011 at 12:57am \| IP Logged

First, jimct, it turns out I have the first 45 version on
the yellow Epic label.

The 45 version also appears on Rhino's "Soul Hits Of The
70s: volume 10".

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Posted: 13 May 2011 at 8:10am \| IP Logged

Just for clarification, Grant, the 45 version you are referencing on Soul Hits is the first, non-hit 45 version (which is the same as the LP version). Pat's database says:

(S) (2:58) Rhino 70790 Soul Hits Of The 70's Volume 10 (LP and first 45 version)

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Posted: 13 May 2011 at 8:14am \| IP Logged

EdisonLite wrote:

So Gordon, are you saying you have identified a possible third mix of this song?

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Posted: 13 May 2011 at 9:17am \| IP Logged

Yes, the version I heard on AT40 seemed different.

Edited by EdisonLite on 14 May 2011 at 9:22am

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Posted: 13 May 2011 at 8:50pm \| IP Logged

Are you talking about the original AT 40 LPs that you listened to or one of the radio re-broadcasts? The broadcasts are often "repaired".

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I've been hearing lots of original broadcasts and rebroadcasts as of late, and I'm not sure which it's from. But even if it was on a re-airing, that still means there's a 3rd (alt) mix out there - which could have been created in 1973 or afterward.

Edited by EdisonLite on 14 May 2011 at 9:21am

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Posted: 14 May 2011 at 5:14pm \| IP Logged

Could the single version been on the original show, but the remastering engineer only had an LP version and inserted it into the show, leaving part of the 45 version near the end to get to Casey's outro? Making it sound like it was a new mix when it reality it's just the LP version and 45 versions spliced together at points? Sometimes they also get the splice wrong when they put these shows back together so did they accidentally repeat something? Also if it is a remastered version, the engineer could have used a Johnny Nash import CD, and who knows what kind of mixes would be on that. Lastly, some labels sent the AT 40 show reel to reel tape dubs of the songs and they could have simply gotten an incorrect dub. Lots of possibilities here.

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Posted: 14 May 2011 at 10:11pm \| IP Logged

What I heard on AT40 definitely wasn't an edit of the 45 and LP versions. It was missing lead vocals (only exposing background vocals on "little darling" - near the end of the song). And that's not how it is on the LP or 45 versions. So yes, it's an alternate - whether it's on a tape sent to AT40, a CD from Europe, or some 1973 vinyl pressing - we don't know. That's why I bring it up so people can check their vinyl.

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Posted: 15 May 2011 at 2:23am \| IP Logged

Edison,

I'll send you an mp3 of the version from his CD "The Reggae Collection" .... take a listen and see if it might be what you heard. I just found the mix is different from other cd's.

The database lists "I Can See Clearly" from this CD as an alternate take, but i've suspected it might be a remix with a different drum track added.

So i was curious after reading your post, maybe Stir It Up was different too.
I pulled out Rock Artifacts Vol 2, and The Reggae Collection. These 2 mixes are different.
This version is more like the LP version than the 45 mix, it lacks all the extra vocals and instruments added to the 45 mix, however i'm hearing the placement of instruments is different, the backing vocals, etc. All these things are different on this CD.
Might have to update the db as either "remix" or "neither the 45 or LP version" ... I'm not sure which this would get.
-MM

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