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Are Hooked on Classics and Hooked on Swing 45 versions on CD
anywhere? Can they be created from edits?
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The 45 of Hooked On Classics is a simple edit of the LP version. The edit occurs at approximately the 1:40 mark at the end of the Karelia Suite segment. Delete from the beginning of the "handclap" part of the beat that begins the Beethoven's 5th Symphony to the handclap that begins the Marriage of Figaro segment.
The 45 of Hooked On Swing cannot be recreated from the LP because the 45 is either a different performance or a drastic remix (the most noticeable difference is the synthesized "thud-clap" beat). However, the 45 version does appear on a long out-of-print RCA from 1991 called "Keep On Dancing". This comp also contains a very nice sounding mastering of the 45 version of the original Stars On 45 medley, as well as the only CD issue of the 45 version of the Stars On 45 III (Stevie Wonder) medley. Unfortunately, Stars On 45 III sounds terrible on this disc, and the 45 version cannot be recreated from the LP due to a unique segue between Superstition and Fingertips.
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Gordon:
Here is the thread that Eric referenced.
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"Hooked On Classics" is a track I'd LONG forgotten about...
With the above referenced edit, does the 45 version run 3:20? Or, do I have the edit in the wrong place...
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Can the 45 version be created by using the version found on the Nippers Greatest Hits of the 80's?
I'm sure there are simple edit points on the one.
Its seems so bizarre to me in hindsight that these records were hits.
I thought they were cool because of the editing and how they were different than anything else on the radio.
Come to think of it the musical years 1980 through 1982 were a bit different too.
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bwolfe wrote:
Can the 45 version be created by using the version found on the Nippers Greatest Hits of the 80's?
I'm sure there are simple edit points on the one.
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Yes, the Nipper version is the LP version and can be transformed into the 45 version by deleting the section from 1:40 (starting with the "handclap") through 2:54 (picking up with the handclap).
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eriejwg wrote:
"Hooked On Classics" is a track I'd LONG forgotten about...
With the above referenced edit, does the 45 version run 3:20? Or, do I have the edit in the wrong place... |
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The edited version runs 3:50 using the instructions on the post above.
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Guess I don't know my Figaro too well, lol.
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Many beat me to it - yes, when you're done the edit should be at 1:40, and the total run length (including outro silence) should be 3:52 - consistent with what everyone else posted.
bwolfe wrote:
Its seems so bizarre to me in hindsight that these records were hits.
I thought they were cool because of the editing and how they were different than anything else on the radio.
Come to think of it the musical years 1980 through 1982 were a bit different too.
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Oh, yes they were! The 1981-1982 medley craze sounded ridiculous on the air back then, too. Stars on 45, "Hooked On Classics", "The Beatles Movie Medley", "The Beach Boys Medley", "The Elvis Medley" (not a top 40 hit), "Pistols On 45" by the Black Arabs, British medleys from Gidea Park, and dozens of others that didn't even come close to charting. Squeeze and Captain Sensible released jokey medleys of their own songs on B-sides of their singles, there were parodies (Chas & Dave's "Stars Over 45", Weird Al's "Polkas On 45" and "Hooked On Polkas"), and when the technology was ripe, there was a resurgence (M/A/R/R/S, Jive Bunny...)
Personally, I think it's one of the most laughable crazes to invade the top of the pop charts, ever. (And that includes the Macarena, the Lambada, and Whoomp There It Is!)
Lucky for me, I play loads of bad music on the radio show, and the "God-Awful Medley Of The Week" is a regular feature. Here's a list of all the awfuls medleys I've dredged up and played in the past few years (and there are many more than I haven't gotten to yet):
BUDDY HOLLY MEDLEY - Paul New And Steel City (1978-ish)
DISCO MEDLEY - Ramapo Valley Chorus
CLASSICAL MUDDLEY - Portsmouth Sinfonia (1981)
OLD SCHOOL MEGAMIX - Bar-Kays (1984)
HOPPING MAD - Jive Bunny and the Mastermixers (1989)
second half of DISCO MEDLEY - The Mini-Pops (1982)
DANCE MIX (Side Two) - EMI America (1985)
1984 TOP TUNE MEDLEY - Disconet
ROXETTE RADIO MEDLEY - Unlimited Beat (1998)
D.I.S.C.O./FUNKYTOWN - Pete Banby (1981)
MIAMI HIT MIX - Gloria Estefan (1992)
THE ESSENTIAL WALLY PARTY MEDLEY - Gay Gordon and the Mince Pies
BEATLES MASH-UP MEDLEY - Hank Handy (2005)
UNTITLED - Abba
STARS ON RAP - Stars on 45 (2000?)
HOOKED ON HENNY - Henny Youngman (1982)
GOLDEN YEARS OF ROCK AND ROLL - Long Tall Ernie and the Shakers (1981)
KITCHEN KABARET MEDLEY - The EPCOT Center Album (1983)
1986 TOP TUNE MEDLEY - Disconet (1987)
PASS THE SALT-N-PEPA (Medley) - Salt-N-Pepa (1987)
MOUSERCISE MEDLEY - Mickey Mouse (1982)
RODEOHEAD - Hard 'n Phirm (2004)
LET'S ROCK (MEDLEY) - Ultimix
JACK MIX 2 - Mirage
DANCIN' DISNEY - The Michael Zager Band (1978)
STARS ON 45 (12") - Stars on 45 (1981)
JANET MEGAMIX 04 - Janet Jackson (Jan 2004)
DANCE ON STARS - Stars on 45
LET'S DANCE/THE SAFETY DANCE - Marilyn McCoo (1983)
BOWIE MEGAMIX - David Bowie
INDUSTRIAL DANCE MIX (produced by Breaktime) - Eurythmics
STARS ON 45 PRESENTS STAR SISTERS (1983)
CASABLANCA MEDLEY - Munich Machine
OLD SCHOOL MEGAMIX - Run-DMC
MEGAMIX - Duran Duran
MEGACHIC (Chic Medley) - Chic (1990)
MEDLEY: LOVE SONGS ARE BACK AGAIN - Band Of Gold (1984)
MEDLEY FROM CHESS - Hal Leonard presents Choral Spectrum '87
THE ULTIMATE BROADWAY MEDLEY - Selections from The Ultimate Broadway Album on Arista (1998)
LET'S HANG ON/SHERRY/BYE BYE BABY - Michael Fendt
MEGAMIX - Ace Of Base (1996?)
PURPLE MEDLEY [7"] - Prince (1995)
MACARENA CHRISTMAS (Joy Mix) - Los Del Rio (1996)
NEW YEAR'S MEDLEY - Salsoul Orchestra (1976/1992)
TRAIN MEDLEY - Boxcar Willie (1980)
HOOKED ON SWING - Larry Elgart and His Manhattan Swing Orchestra (1982)
DAMNED ON 45 - Captain Sensible (1984)
HOOKED ON SONGS MEDLEY - Kings Of Swing Orchestra
HIGH SCHOOL BPM MONTAGE - Ron Gerber (1986)
I LOVE ROCK AND ROLL (The Medley) - Joan Jett / Various [produced by Ultimix] (1994?)
GOOD OLD ROCK 'N ROLL - Cat Mother and the All Night Boys (1969) [co-produced by Jimi Hendrix!]
MEGAMIX - Michael Jackson
ELEPHANT LOVE SONG MEDLEY - Moulin Rouge Soundtrack (2001)
DOWN WITH THE SHIP - Scatterbrain (1990)
MEGAFETE (SAMSTUG NACHT) - Howard Carpendale
POLKA POWER - "Weird Al" Yankovic (1999)
ROCK PETER ROCK - Peter Kraus (1992)
ONE MAN/FINALE - Paul Jabara (1989)
CARIBBEAN CARNIVAL [known as THE CARIBBEAN DISCO SHOW in England] - Lobo [not the same '70s era Lobo] (1981)
I CAN'T LEAVE YOU ALONE/LOVER LOVER LOVER/KUNG FU FIGHTING - Kai Warner (1976)
INTROSPECTION - Osymyso (2001)
SEASONS OF GOLD - Gidea Park (1981)
STREET MEDLEY - Various, from "Once Upon A Tour"
ABBA MEDLEY - Stars On 45 (1981)
ABBA MEDLEY - Variete (1995)
HOOKED ON COUNTRY PART 2 - Albert Coleman's Atlanta Pops (1982)
FREE-STYLIN' (THE MEDLEY) - Ultimix
HOOKED ON COUNTRY PART 1 - Albert Coleman's Atlanta Pops (1982)
PARADE OF STARS! (1982)
ROCKOLLECTION PART 1 - Laurent Voulzy (1977)
DO YOU REMEMBER - Long Tall Ernie and the Shakers (1981)
MEGAMIX (THE OFFICIAL BOOTLEG) - KC and the Sunshine Band (2000)
MEDLEY - Stars On 45 (1981)
MEDLEY U.S.A. - Creedence Clearwater Revival (1981)
PLATTERAMA MEDLEY - The Platters (1982)
KING IS BACK MEDLEY - Variete (1995)
BEACH BOY GOLD - Gidea Park (1981)
BRAS ON 45 - Ivor Biggun (1981)
DON'T STOP 'TIL YOU GET ENOUGH (medley) - Ashaye [Michael Jackson imitator!] (1983)
LOONEY TUNES MEDLEY - Pasadena Roof Orchestra (1983)
L.A. MEDLEY - Jane's Addiction (1991)
MEGAMIX MEDLEY - Paula Abdul (2000)
PURPLE MEDLEY [12"] - Prince (1995)
HOOKED ON BIG BANDS - Frank Barber Orchestra (1982)
MEDLEY '91 PART 2 (1991)
MEGA MEDLEY - Zapp and Roger (1993)
JANE GET ME OFF THIS CRAZY THING - sample-happy mix from Television's Greatest Hits album (1986)
MEGAMIX - Expose (1987)
A VERY STRANGE MEDLEY (V.S.M.) - Barry Manilow (1977)
GOLDEN SHOWER OF HITS (JERKS ON 45) - Circle Jerks (1983)
HOOKED ON DANCE - K.C. and the Sunshine Band with Silver Convention (1997)
GET OUT OF MY MIX - Thomas Dolby (1983)
ANDREWS SISTERS' MEDLEY - The Sunshine Terrace Swing Band (1979)
MEDLEY OF HITS - Waylon Jennings (1983)
UNLIMITED CITATIONS (SLOW) - Cafe Creme (1978)
EVERY LITTLE HIT MIX - Bobby Brown (1989)
THE MEGA-MIX - The Beatles (2000)
MEGAMIX - Technotronic (1990)
CHRISTMAS MEDLEY - Pee-Wee Herman (1988)
BONEY M MEGAMIX - Boney M (1988)
MORE STARS - Stars On 45 (1981)
PAYBACK MIX (PART 1) - James Brown (1988)
MEDLEY '91 - No artist credited
THE BEST DISCO IN TOWN - The Ritchie Family (1976)
MEGAMEDLEY - Abba (1999)
THE S.O.S. III SOLAR MEDLEY - Disconet
IT'S IT'S THE SWEET MIX - Sweet (1984)
DO IT AGAIN medley with BILLIE JEAN - Club House (1983)
DO IT AGAIN medley with BILLIE JEAN - Slingshot (1983)
MEDLEY - Mini Pops (1982)
THAT'S WHAT I LIKE - Jive Bunny and the Mastermixers (1990)
CHAIN GANG MEDLEY - Jim Croce (1976)
BURNING THE GROUND - Duran Duran (1989)
POP GOES THE MOVIES - Meco (1982)
HOOKED ON BIG BANDS PART 2 - Frank Barber Orchestra (1982)
PISTOLS ON 45 - Black Arabs (1982)
THE MEGA-MELLE MIX - Melle Mel (1985)
GODZILLA'S COMING TO TOWN - The Destruction featuring M.C. Godzilla (1992)
STAR WARS MEDLEY - Barbary Coast Banjo Brass
THE GREATEST ROCK 'N' ROLL BAND IN THE WORLD - Stars on 45 (1982)
UNLIMITED CITATIONS (Rock) - Cafe Creme (1978)
FROGGY MIX Part 2 - James Brown (1985)
THE HIT COMBINATION - Level 42 (1992)
MTV MEDLEY - C and C Music Factory (1992)
THE ELVIS MEDLEY - Elvis Presley (1982)
THE SOUND OF SKAAA - Busters All Stars (1990)
MEDLEY OF HITS - Diana Ross and the Supremes (1980)
DISCOMANIA - Cafe Creme (1978)
STARTRAX MEDLEY (Disco Songs) - Startrax (1981)
MEDLEY (MEMORIES OF DAYS GONE BY) - Fred Parris and the Five Satins (1982)
BEATSKI MIX - Smalltown Boys [Bronski Beat imitators!] (1988)
MEGAMIX - Milli Vanilli (1990)
FROGGY MIX Part 1 - James Brown (1985)
CHAIN GANG MEDLEY - Jim Croce (1976)
MEGAMIX - Herbie Hancock (1984)
CONNIE FRANCIS MEDLEY
STARS ON 45 III (A TRIBUTE TO STEVIE WONDER) - Stars on 45 (1982)
CHRISTMAS MEDLEY - Salsoul Orchestra (1976)
CHRISTMAS MEDLEY - Pee Wee Herman (1988)
STAR TREK MEDLEY - Meco (1980)
OUT OF THE GAP - Thompson Twins (1984)
DISCO MEDLEY - Mini-Pops (1982)
MEGAMIX - Milli Vanilli (1990)
WHAM! U.K. MEGA MIX - Wham! U.K. (1983)
BLONDIE MEDLEY - Mini-Pops (1982)
THE BRYAN ADAMIX - Bryan Adams (1985)
SUMMER FUN MEDLEY - California (1981)
MEGAMIX - Earth Wind and Fire (1999)
SQUABS ON FORTY TAB - Squeeze (1981)
STRUNG OUT ON MOTOWN - Regal Funkharmonic Orchestra (1982)
PUMP UP THE VOLUME [UK version] - MARRS (1987)
GREASE MEGAMIX - John Travolta and Olivia Newton-John (1992?)
HIT MIX - Fun Fun (1988)
A TRIBUTE TO MARILYN MONROE - Star Sisters (1984)
HOOKED ON ROCK CLASSICS - London Symphony Orchestra (1982)
BEACH BOYS MEDLEY - Beach Boys (1981)
MEGAMIX - Naughty By Nature (1999)
BEE GEES MEDLEY Pt. II - Startrax (1981)
BEE GEES MEDLEY Pt. I - Startrax (1981) [Cheesy knockoff of the Stars on 45!]
HOOKED ON CLASSICS - Royal Philharmonic Orchestra (1982)
THIS IS THE GO GO'S (MEDLEY) - Go-Go's (199?)
YEAH BABY! - Jock Jam '99 featuring Austin Powers (1999)
ABBA MEDLEY - Mini-Pops (1982)
THAT'S WHAT I LIKE - Jive Bunny and the Mastermixers (1990)
PISTOLS ON 45 [medley of Sex Pistols songs] - Black Arabs (1982)
STAR WARS AND OTHER HITS - Stars on 45 (1982)
BEACH BOYS MEDLEY - Beach Boys (1981)
MEDLEY II - Stars On 45 (1981)
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crapfromthepast wrote:
Lucky for me, I play loads of bad music on the radio show, and the "God-Awful Medley Of The Week" is a regular feature. Here's a list of all the awfuls medleys I've dredged up and played in the past few years (and there are many more than I haven't gotten to yet):
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Holy cow, I never knew there were so many medleys. A few more that I didn't see on your list that you may want to hunt down if you're airing bad medleys:
Enigma - "I Love Music" and "Ain't No Stoppin" (2 different medleys): These medleys (circa 1982-ish) of then-recent disco hits didn't chart in the US but were popular in the UK, and were fairly well-done.
Royal Philharmonic Orchestra - "Hooked On Tchaikovsky": Follow-up to the "Hooked On Classics" single that failed to chart.
Stars On 45 - "Stars On Frankie": Godawful Sinatra medley that was done a few years after the Stars on 45 crazed had died.
Starsisters/Stars On 45 - "Swing Sisters Medley": Very well-done medley of Andrews Sisters hits by yet another incarnation of Stars on 45.
Regal Funkharmonic Orchestra - "Strung Out On Motown": Motown's attempt to cash-in on the Stars on 45 craze a little late, and too brief song snippets and undistinguished vocals.
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Dr. Demento used to play one called "Commercials on 45" by Stevens & Gridnick. I don't know if it was ever released to the public. It's not on the one album I have by them.
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crapfromthepast wrote:
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Ron, since you questioned it, the "The Grease Megamix" was from 1996.
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Paul Haney wrote:
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While I don't know the full back story to the song, it was released much earlier than 1996, although '96 was the year it became a hit in the US. There's a Wikipedia article that says it was a #1 hit in Australia in 1991. I do not know how accurate the info is though.
Grease Megamix on Wikipedia
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Hi
A few conversational medley comments.....
I recall there was a stepping point in the medley craze, in 1979. The Supremes Medley that Disconet created was so popular in clubs that Motown had to release it. That same year, a White label DJ medley of oldies strung together over a generic beat was called "Bits & Pieces II"...that used the real 45's of the oldies. Then in '81 Stars On 45 recreated that medley as a production and obviously had the huge pop hit with it. If you ever wondered why the odd line-up of songs in that, the Stars On 45 recreated pretty much as the original medley was done. Even all the Beatles ones were together like that.
So that opened the floodgate.
Then the above mentioned hits were out, "Hooked On Classics" and "The Beach Boys Medley" were all over the radio. Both were well produced, but after that i was buying a lot of them that were real lazy, just random segments spliced together with no thought of "flow"...comes to mind a UK EMI 45 i bought and didn't see in the list up there; "Hollie-Pops" and the flipside "Hollie-Daze"...medley of the Hollies hits.
Another was a Dion/Belmonts medley, same thing, random snippets chopped together in the most jarring fashion.
One other mention as an aside; there is a reason most of even the big hit medleys are absent from CD's. The licensing requirements for them have changed for the more greedy (as we come to expect from our mega-corps).
I don't know every detail, but I believe you now have to pay the licensing fee for each song separately, thus making the cost prohibitive. Also a paperwork nightmare.
It gets worse if it's a foreign owned copyright too, can potentially complicate the process. Plus, whomever holds the mechanical licensing for the recording also wants to be paid (e.g. Stars On 45).
I had to ask about all of that because I spoke to a rep from a oldies label that attempted to license the Stars On 45, and said "forget it."
And sometimes a label can sneak something using a loophole, but those discs usually get pulled pretty quick.
I have the above mentioned "Keep On Dancing" dancing CD (which contains several hard to find ones!) and learned through Pat that is a record club issue. So that one slid by the radar a little.
Of course, all the above problems needn't apply on material that's in the public domain, such as classical music, and the track that started this thread. :-)
Happy medley listening, all.
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MMathews wrote:
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Both were well produced, but after that i was buying a lot of them that were real lazy, just random segments spliced together with no thought of "flow"...comes to mind a UK EMI 45 i bought and didn't see in the list up there; "Hollie-Pops" and the flipside "Hollie-Daze"...medley of the Hollies hits.
Another was a Dion/Belmonts medley, same thing, random snippets chopped together in the most jarring fashion.
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Yes, there were many records hastily thrown together to cash in on the medley craze. One of the better ones was the "Seasons Of Gold" Four Seasons medley by Gidea Park. The Frankie Valli imitator was dead-on, and the record was well-produced (in the same league as Stars on 45). This one actually hit the Hot 100. They also did a Beach Boys medley that was pretty good, though not as accurate as "Seasons of Gold".
The Beach Boys Medley (the one by The Beach Boys) was probably the best of the medley records created from original hits. Someone put a lot of work into this one, creating segues that were mostly seamless.
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To Roscoe:
The Beach Boys Medley was edited by John Palladino (he received label credit on the 45).
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That sure was a long list of medleys. One that I have that wasn't on the list is an import 45 of Bill Haley and His Comets. It doesn't contain any "extra beats" so some of the song changes are slightly jarring.
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I tried to make the 45 version from the LP "Hooked On Swing" (US RCA Victor issue.) But I couldn't make it. Because there is not the sound at 0:26 or 0:37 on the LP. This is the mark at 0:24 on the commercial 45.
As the run time info:
"Hooked On Swing"
The commercial 45 actual running time is (3:42), the listed time is "3:40" on the record label. (RCA PB-13219)
The LP actual running time is (6:32), the listed time is "6:34" on the LP record label. (RCA AFL1-4343)
"Hooked On Classics"
The commercial 45 actual running time is (3:50), the listed time is "3:48" on the record label. (RCA PB-12304)
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abagon wrote:
I tried to make the 45 version from the LP "Hooked On Swing" (US RCA Victor issue.) But I couldn't make it. Because there is not the sound at 0:26 or 0:37 on the LP. This is the mark at 0:24 on the commercial 45.
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I think the "Hooked On Swing" 45 is actually a different performance than the LP version. Certainly it uses a different rhythm track than the LP version.
The lone CD appearance on the "Keep On Dancing" compiliation actually sounds quite nice.
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abagon's run time info for the larry elgart song "hooked on swing" was never entered into the db....thanks for the edit you did awhile ago for me aaron, it matches perfectly!
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