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Todd Ireland
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Posted: 06 July 2008 at 5:39pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

In the database, there are two CDs where Diana Ross & Lionel Richie's "Endless Love" appears in edited form with a run time of 3:04-3:05. Was there a promo 45 release containing this short edit?
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Posted: 16 August 2020 at 9:57am | IP Logged Quote Santi Paradoa

Great question. Only the instrumental on the b-side was
shorter than the a-side (the listed time on the instro
is 2:50). No idea where the edit came from (don't have
either of the two discs with the edit so not sure what
was cut).

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Posted: 16 August 2020 at 10:26am | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast

Nope.

The culprit is a 2-CD set from Time-Life called Heart Rock (1988), which includes a lot of early fades. This particular song fades about 90 seconds early, which is awful.

The 3:05 version wasn't released at the time, and any appearances on CD can be traced back to Heart Rock.

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Posted: 16 August 2020 at 10:40am | IP Logged Quote Santi Paradoa

Good info Ron. So the note in the database should
actually be early fade (instead of "edited").

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Posted: 07 November 2021 at 3:42pm | IP Logged Quote PopArchivist

crapfromthepast wrote:
Nope.

The culprit is a 2-CD set from Time-Life called Heart Rock (1988), which includes a lot of early fades. This particular song fades about 90 seconds early, which is awful.

The 3:05 version wasn't released at the time, and any appearances on CD can be traced back to Heart Rock.


Why someone would want an edit or fade that did not exist back then is beyond me. Worse off for the label putting it out that way...

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I imagine that (especially in the early days
of CD's) songs were sometimes edited or faded
early to fit as many songs as possible on a
disc, and I think at first CD's only held 74
min. of music, later on expanding to 80? That
might be the case with the "Heart Rock" comp
from 1988 that Ron mentioned. I have the 3:04
version of "Endless Love" on the "Duets" VA
Compilation, and I imagine it's the same one
as "Heart Rock".

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PopArchivist wrote:
Why someone would want an edit or fade that did not exist back then is beyond me.


Clearly, you never owned any K-tel albums. :-/ On some volumes it was a challenge to find a song that was
complete.
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Posted: 08 December 2021 at 3:39pm | IP Logged Quote Scanner

There was another track, "Dreaming Of You," by Lionel and
Diana on the "Endless Love" soundtrack which received
some Pop airplay according to R&R. I always wondered why
this was not released as a single after "Endless Love."
Lionel's solo album was still a year away (and featured
neither song!) and Diana was off to RCA. Even though she
was about to release "Why Do Fools Fall In Love" on her
new label, that didn't stop Motown from releasing a
previously recorded track, "My Old Piano," as a single
and a new compilation, "All The Great Hits," that
contained "Endless Love" at about the same time.
Capitalizing on a nine week # 1 with another duet would
have seemed to be a better opportunity than an obscure
track from the "Diana" album.
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https://www.discogs.com/release/2598317-Diana-Ross-Lionel-
Richie-Dreaming-Of-You

Mercury did release this promo.
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Posted: 31 August 2024 at 3:00pm | IP Logged Quote Santi Paradoa

In 1981, Diana had already signed with RCA where she recorded a solo version of this song. The label released this solo recording on a promo 45.

The promo 45 has a long version (same as the LP version found on her album "Why Do Fools Fall In Love") and a shorter edited version.

The rare edited promo 45 version can be found on the 2015 expanded version of the album as a bonus track. In 2003, Universal Music reissued Lionel's solo debut LP and included his demo as a bonus track.

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