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EdisonLite
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An updated AC/Hot AC book may be on the distant horizon. I
really hope that
comes through. Way too many years since the last edition.
And next to pop, AC
is my favorite genre.
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EdisonLite wrote:
And updated AC/Hot AC book may be on the distant horizon. I really hope that
comes through. Way too many years since the last edition. And next to pop, AC
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I'll second that emotion!
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Hey Paul,
New book eye deer: how about doing a Pop LPs Annual book? Or put it in sections of other existing books? I think this would be awesome.
My preference would be to isolate each year, if an LP appeared in multiple years then each yearly chapter would show that LP's data only for that year, peak and weeks, running from Jan 1 to Dec 31. Then onto to the next year, not carrying over the previous years data for this LP, but only reporting the new peak and weeks for this next year. That is true history as it was, and would make a great annual and a great book.
3 options of doing a Pop LPs Annual book:
A. do a separate brand new Pop LPs Annual book
B. or, since you have now split the Top Pop Singles book into 2 volumes by year, likewise consider splitting the Top Pop Albums book into 2 volumes, and adding a new Pop LPs Annual section to each volume
C. or, consider splitting the Pop Singles Annual book into 2 volumes by year, and adding a new Pop LPs Annual section to each volume
I think it's groovy to the max !! Take my money right now already, ha. Who out there is with me ??
Muchos nachos...
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Paul - Since we're asking questions...
Can you provide a taste of what was in the 1995 book Top Pop Singles CD Guide 1955-1979 (compiled by Jerry Reuss)?
I'd guess that it covers roughly the same ground as our host's Top 40 Music On Compact Disc books/database, but that's just a guess.
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RoknRobnLoxely: I’ve lobbied a similar book for county Albums (an annual).
I think the annual is a great historical way to look at what albums were
popular in any given year.
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RE: Albums Annual - Sorry, but it's not gonna happen. We've got our hands full with updating our
existing titles for the next several years. It's now down to pretty much just me working on the books
and they all take time to do correctly.
RE: The CD Guide. It's just a very basic listing of what Jerry thought the best-sounding version of
each song was at the time (1995). It was a lot of fun to put together and it included lots of input from my
own collection at the time, but it's a pretty basic listing overall. Obviously, Pat's site blows it
away in just about every conceivable way. It did cover the entire Hot 100, so there's that.
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I have the Jerry Reuss book and it has rather dated
listings since it was done in 1995. It's okay for what it
is but not a book I'd recommend.
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Good to know! Thanks, Paul and AA.
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Warning - My question for Paul is kind of off topic for
this forum. But does have a basis in music.
Paul, when visiting Los Solana's chart site I have
noticed you have added charts for WIRE AM 1430
Indianapolis, IN from their pop music era before WIRE
went full time CW (mid 60s?). The charts all seem to be
Top Ten lists from evening DJ Bernie Herman. This
suggests to me that the station may have dayparted Top 40
instead of being a full-time outlet for the music. Were
these charts found in Cash Box magazine or the
newspapers? WIRE pre-CW info is pretty rare. If you know
anything about the station at that time, please share
with me. Also, I seem to remember seeing a full top 40
WIRE standalone chart at a record show 25 years ago. I
should have bought it but failed. Do you know of any such
charts?
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Paul Haney
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Yes, those were charts published in the Indianapolis Star newspaper. It appears that Bernie's show was quite
popular. During the 1950s, many AM stations were full-service and pop music was just one component of the
broadcasting day. Some stations had a mix of pop, country and even R&B DJ programs. The whole concept of
stations playing music full-time would eventually catch on by the late 1950s/early 1960s.
I don't think I've ever seen an actual stand-alone printed survey for WIRE's pre-Country days.
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OK Paul thanks. I did know that the charts did run in the
Star but was not sure if that was your source. Seeing that
WIRE chart is really murky. It has been so long I am not
even sure I even seen it. It was 25 years ago at a Yahoo
Chat room or something. Not sure. I wish more would turn up
on WIRE. I am familiar with the practice of dayparting used
by many "conservative" radio owners in the 50s. Thanks for
your help here.
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Paul, not sure if you or Joel ever discussed this -
I always thought that BB started a Singles SALES chart in October 1984, but
browsing through old online Billboards, I see that as early as the mid 70s (See
page 30, 1/8/77 as an example) there was a long-term functioning chart listing
what appears to be U.S. retail single sales. Was this - like "Hot 100 Sales" - a
subset of the Hot 100 or something kind of unofficial?
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jebsib wrote:
Paul, not sure if you or Joel ever discussed this -
I always thought that BB started a Singles SALES chart in October 1984, but
browsing through old online Billboards, I see that as early as the mid 70s (See
page 30, 1/8/77 as an example) there was a long-term functioning chart listing
what appears to be U.S. retail single sales. Was this - like "Hot 100 Sales" - a
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I believe you're referring to the "Rack Singles Best Sellers" chart(s). I've been aware of it, even
before working at Record Research. Many years ago, I brought it up to Joel and he just kind of
brushed it off, so I never gave it much thought after that happened. I don't think we were ever
able to connect as an actual component chart to the Hot 100.
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Yes that's it - Thank you - It's odd as the chart ran for 3 or 4 years and seems
like it should have left more of a footprint. But as it stands, I agree - I don't
think it has any correlation to the published Hot 100...
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jebsib wrote:
Paul, not sure if you or Joel ever
discussed this -
I always thought that BB started a Singles SALES chart in
October 1984, but
browsing through old online Billboards, I see that as
early as the mid 70s (See
page 30, 1/8/77 as an example) there was a long-term
functioning chart listing
what appears to be U.S. retail single sales. Was this -
like "Hot 100 Sales" - a
subset of the Hot 100 or something kind of unofficial?
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Looks like this debuted in the January 11, 1975 issue.
Bottom right of page 3:
RACK CHART DEBUTS
LOS ANGELES- Billboard bows a new rackjobber's best
seller's chart reflecting singles and LPs sales on page
6. The titles are compiled from data provided by such
major racks as Heilicher, ABC Records and Tape Sales and
Musical Isle.
But rackjobber sales... that's not retail sales to the
public, that's sales to record stores, isn't it?
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Paul Haney
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IIRC, rackjobber sales were to retail outlets, including record shops, department stores, car washes and
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Ah - so not even a complete sales picture in the slightest!
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