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Fetta
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The database does not list "Conga"by The Miami Sound Machine on the Club Epic, Vol. 2 CD. The version clocks in at 5:59 on the CD. Does anyone know if this is the 12" Single version?
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Edited by Fetta on 03 August 2008 at 1:23pm
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cmmmbase
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the 12" has a listed time of 6:00.
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Yes, Fetta, it is the 12-inch single version (which is really just an unedited version of the album mix).
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Fetta
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Thank you.
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Todd Ireland
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Abagon recently brought up an interesting observation between the 45 and LP of "Conga"... At the very end of the 45 as the song closes with the verse "come on shake your body baby do the conga", a lingering echo of this verse (at least, I think it's this verse) can still be faintly heard as the song is ending cold. However, lingering echo of the final verse is imperceptible on the LP. As far as I know, the rest of the 45 and LP are identical except for the closing seconds.
I'm not quite certain if this difference is considered significant enough to warrant a 45/LP version difference in the database. I'd be happy to e-mail the last few seconds of the "Conga" vinyl 45 and LP to anyone interested in comparing the two and reporting back with their opinion on the matter.
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Thank you for the post on behalf of me, Todd!
Both the actual 45 running time and the listed time are "4:14". (EPIC 34-05457)
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AndrewChouffi wrote:
Yes, Fetta, it is the 12-inch single version (which is really just an unedited version of the album mix).
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There's one key difference between the 12" and 7" (and possibly LP) versions: one verse ends with the word "stop." On the 12" version, "stop" is followed by silence for three beats, while the 7" has some sort of sound (vocals? percussion?) crescendoing into the downbeat.
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Hi Eric,
I always thought that's where the edit took place...
Unless we are not talking about the same thing.
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Maybe I am missing something here but when I listen to the ending of the 45 and LP (Primitive Love) I do not hear any difference.
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Todd Ireland
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Really? The difference occurs during the song's final note. When I crank the volume up during that note on the 45, I can hear a faint echo of Gloria Estefan singing the words: "do the conga" (or something close to this... The audio is low). I can't really detect this echoing verse during the final note on the LP. If you review this again and still don't hear a difference, Pat, then it's probably not significant enough to note in the database.
Edited by Todd Ireland on 12 August 2008 at 5:50pm
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What's being described here sounds like bleed through. It's essentially the result of vibrations from the adjacent groove of the record that are being picked up by the stylus and are audible during a quiet part of the recording. Most likely you are hearing the faint vocals only through one channel, which is because only one side of the groove is being affected. I have heard this happen on recordings before--one example is the extended version of "Don't You Want Me" by Jody Watley. I can always faintly hear the first few beats on the 12" single a second before they actually kick in.
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995wlol:
The faint vocals do sound like they're mostly coming from the right channel, but I can hear them to a lesser extent in the left channel too.
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I probably should have stated "mostly through one channel." Definitely sounds like bleed through to me, but I'm sure any number of our forum members who are more experienced with the subtleties of vinyl could offer more insight than I can. I just read a very technical explanation of "bleed through" on the stevehoffman.tv forum a couple of days ago, but I can't find it now.
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