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Posted: 08 November 2007 at 11:19am | IP Logged Quote 80smusicfreak

Brian W. wrote:
A call to the Virgin Megastore on Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood confirmed what 80sMusicFreak was told at Borders: the ringle promotion has been pushed to 2008, and stores ordered to ship all copies back.

I asked if Sony had given a release date, and the Virgin employee told me no, it was "just 2008."


Even more puzzling, if what we were told is true: Pause & Play and Amazon both still show three Christmas ringles slated for release on Nov. 27 by Jose Feliciano ("Feliz Navidad"), The Singing Dogs ("Jingle Bells"/"Oh! Susanna"), and Mariah Carey ("All I Want for Christmas is You"). Will people buy Christmas tunes in March/April (or whenever it is they've now been pushed back to next year), or will these all instead be thrown into a giant shredder???
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Posted: 15 November 2007 at 9:31am | IP Logged Quote 80smusicfreak

Paid another visit to my local Best Buy last night, and had a little more time to devote to looking for any more stray ringles that were possibly on the racks. It turned out the one by Sean Kingston that I saw last week was either pulled or sold, but I DID find yet another - this time it was "Eye of the Tiger" by Survivor. Since that tune has always been one of my favorites, and coincidentally one of the ringles that I'd decided I wanted, I immediately grabbed it...

I then asked an employee - who appeared to be in his late teens/early 20s - what happened to the others. After disappearing into the back room for a few minutes, he came out and said he remembered seeing some others on the racks a couple weeks ago, but had "no idea what happened to them" - so he was clearly out of the loop!

I then proceeded to the register, unsure whether any bells or whistles would go off when my Survivor ringle (which didn't even have a price sticker on it, BTW) was scanned. But luckily, nothing happened, and it cost me all of $4.99 (hey, no sales tax here in NH!). So I now officially own one ringle, lol...

Hey Brian W., did that Amazon order of yours show up yet???
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Posted: 15 November 2007 at 10:44am | IP Logged Quote Brian W.

Yeah, it did! And, you know, CD Universe is still showing the first batch of ringles (including Thriller) as "usually ships within 1-2 days." So you might try ordering from them.
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Posted: 18 November 2007 at 11:07pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

waldo wrote:

How does 'Can't Get Outta The Rain' sound, does it clock in at the exact same time as the vinyl 45?


Brian W. wrote:

Seems to be same time: actual 4:04, with that rather abrupt fade that's on the 45. Sounds is... good, clear, but it's the usual loud, maximized sound you get on CDs these days.


Ugh. That's what I was afraid of...
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Posted: 19 November 2007 at 9:23am | IP Logged Quote waldo

i don't know about titles by other artists but CD Universe have and are indeed! shipping the Michael Jackson Thriller ringle :) .. and while Amazon have let go of some of their copies it seems that they are holding back now. they told me none have been mailed overseas. hence why i have heard nothing from them.
i'm not aware of any outlets stocking or shipping the Billie Jean one yet.



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Posted: 19 November 2007 at 6:54pm | IP Logged Quote Steve Sharp

The "ringle" concept reminds me of an offering fast food giant Jack In The Box had many years ago. "Frings" were boxed servings of half french fries and half onion rings.

Closer to on topic (not about ringles, but SINGLES):

If a protected download costs 99 cents, and an unprotected, high-quality download costs $1.29, I believe a cd single (with NO B-side at all) should retail for $1.99, in a cardboard picture sleeve. "Ringles" (what a crappy term) approximate the maxi-single, but don't really meet the criteria for that more limited market, either.

What is lost in profit margin is loss-leadered into turning THIS generation into record and/or CD collectors, such as the ones who frequent this site. You can't get hooked on singles, single versions, or full length albums and/or full length cds that might contain the single versions when the single itself has been eliminated.

Bring it back!
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Posted: 24 November 2007 at 6:11pm | IP Logged Quote Gary

waldo wrote:
i don't know about titles by other artists but CD Universe have and are indeed! shipping the Michael Jackson Thriller ringle :)


I got my copy of the Thriller Ringle in the mail yesterday from CD Universe. It is so nice to finally have the 45 version of Thriller on cd!
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Posted: 26 November 2007 at 5:56am | IP Logged Quote waldo

i agree, i prefer playing it instead of the Thriller dual disc that was released in England last year too.

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Posted: 10 July 2008 at 9:22pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

So what's the latest with the CD "ringles"? Did these things ever officially get launched, or has Sony and Universal already decided to scrap them?

Edited by Todd Ireland on 10 July 2008 at 9:26pm
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Posted: 10 July 2008 at 9:42pm | IP Logged Quote Underground Dub

I tried to buy the "Thriller" ringle at a Wal-Mart a while back. Took it to the register, and when it was scanned a loud *SIREN* went off.

The cashier called the manager who said she couldn't sell it to me. She told the cashier to pull the others from the shelf.

What. The.
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Posted: 10 July 2008 at 10:11pm | IP Logged Quote Brian W.

Nine months on, it would appear it's been scrapped, but I don't know for sure. Sure am glad I bought the few ringles I did.
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Posted: 10 July 2008 at 10:46pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Yeah, I found mine on half.com at about the same time it was supposed to be released---only $2.98! Copies on eBay are fetching more than $60.00 today.

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Posted: 11 July 2008 at 5:55am | IP Logged Quote 80smusicfreak

Todd Ireland wrote:
So what's the latest with the CD "ringles"? Did these things ever officially get launched, or has Sony and Universal already decided to scrap them?


Funny you should bring this up now, Todd. For the last few weeks, I've been meaning to add an update to this thread, and hadn't yet gotten around to it. Last month I went on a major five-day music-buying trip to NJ & PA, and lo & behold, I stumbled into a mom-&-pop store in your home state of PA that actually had a full custom display of ringles on the front counter near the register! (Apparently they never got the memo last fall that they were supposed to be sent back.) Of course I sifted through them all (they had at least 50), and ended up buying three - all "oldies": "Surrender" by Cheap Trick, "Jessie's Girl" by Rick Springfield, and "Girls Just Want to Have Fun" by Cyndi Lauper. (The latter is admittedly not among my favorite '80s tunes, but knowing the rarity, I couldn't resist, lol.) They cost me $5.98 each. Also grabbed from the display several copies of the free 5" x 5" flier from Sony/BMG promoting the new format...

So my collection has recently grown, but clearly the format is still dead in the water, as I've seen no new promotion of ringles since the fall. :-( But apparently there are still a few places left out there trying to unload them, although my gut is telling me we've seen the last of any new titles...
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Posted: 11 July 2008 at 5:57am | IP Logged Quote 80smusicfreak

aaronk wrote:
Copies on eBay are fetching more than $60.00 today.


Yikes! I admittedly haven't priced them on eBay in about 4-5 months. Should've bought that whole display, lol...
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