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Both of my promo 45 copies are the listed (and actual) (3:20) mono side, and the listed (3:30), actual (3:26) stereo side versions. Although I don't own the listed (4:54) version on a promo 45, we played that version a lot in 1978, so I am certain that it also does exist. My commercial 45 has a listed time of (3:30), but an actual time of (3:27). There is different deadwax info between my stock 45 and the stereo side of my promo 45, which is how there can correctly be the :01 time difference between the two (3:27 vs 3:26).
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Just FYI, the full 4:54 version was released on a 45 later on to promote "The Best of Exile" LP. It's the B-side to "Stay With Me", on MCA/Curb 52551. Not sure if the longer version was ever on vinyl in '78 though.
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The full version was released on a promo single in 1978 with the short version on the other side.
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I'm not sure if this was reported elsewhere on the board, but the mono promo 45 has added reverb on the vocals when compared with the stereo version. This is mainly noticeable on the first verse.
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It's interesting to see mono promo 45s were still being released in 1978.
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Todd Ireland wrote:
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Actually, most promo 45s were still mono/stereo in 1978. By the early 80s most had transitioned to stereo/stereo promos, but there were still mono/stereo 45s around even well into '82.
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Hykker wrote:
| By the early 80s most had transitioned to stereo/stereo promos, but there were still mono/stereo 45s around even well into '82. |
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The WEA/Warner Music family was among the last holdouts, if not the last. I think all of their promo singles were still mono/stereo until late 1982.
IINM, I have a promo 45 of "The One Thing" by INXS (which was released in late '82, but didn't hit the Top 40 until early '83) which is mono/stereo. It is also on a promo version of the old "trumpet" Atco label, which they had apparently continued to use for promos even after switching to the gray label for commercial releases in the late '70s (as with Atlantic promo 45s from that era, it does not preserve the coloration of the commercial version of the label, but is white on the mono side, light blue on the stereo side). It is very strange to see an INXS 45 in mono and on that style of label...
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Were the mono cuts just for AM Top 40 in mind?
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Jody:
My understanding is that by 1978, Top 40 commercial singles were almost exclusively issued in stereo and a growing majority of Top 40 listeners were switching to hearing their favorite new songs on FM radio. That said, I can only conclude that the mono side of promo 45s were tailored to the remaining AM Top 40 radio holdouts. Of course, I was only about five-years-old then, so I invite anyone with a better recollection to set the record straight if necessary. :-)
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Through most of the 70s, the radio stations with the most influence on Billboard charts and sales of 45s were the AM Top 40s such as WABC/New York, WLS/Chicago, KHJ/Los Angeles and many, many others. It was in the record companies' best interest to provide stations with the mono mix and/or length that was most likely to get played and would sound best. It's a shame that music listeners since then have rarely, if ever, heard the terrific mono mixes of such great hits as Born to Be Wild, China Grove, and many more.
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Hi,
Mono DJ promos began to fade out around 1980. AM Top 40 formats were beginning to fade into history then. AM Radio had special issues on it's music content (music had to collapse well to mono to sound good on AM Radio. Some mixes had to be re-done to sound OK on AM)
Edited by KentT on 26 May 2008 at 7:45am
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Thanks for the additional history notes, Gary and KentT. And, KentT, welcome to the board!
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Wow! I just heard the original 1973 45 version of Aerosmith's "Dream On" on the WLS Rewind. I haven't heard that on an AM radio station since college.
Gary, I have two unplayed promo 45s of "China Grove," and since I'd never heard the mono side before, I gave 'em both a spin. Both copies had a swath of crackles in the right channel that played all the way through the song. These are normally-dependable Columbia Santa Maria pressings, so I was surprised and disappointed. But I certainly echo your comments about those lost mono mixes.
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Listening to Landecker now, they just played the 45 version of "Roundabout."
I hate to say it, been a Landecker fan since the 70's, but 'Records' is sounding all of 61 years old.
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eriejwg wrote:
Listening to Landecker now, they just played the 45 version of "Roundabout."
I hate to say it, been a Landecker fan since the 70's, but 'Records' is sounding all of 61 years old. |
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Which is still better than many DJs sound at 35.
Full disclosure--have always loved Landecker, and I've had the pleasure of talking with him a number of times over the years (last saw him in November).
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