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Gary MusicFan
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Does anyone know what the difference between the 45 and lp version of Stevie Nicks "I Can't Wait"? My 45 is so full of pops and hisses I can't convert this one to cd.
Thanks.
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it IS a remix and cannot be re-created from any cd currently available.....
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Gary MusicFan
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Does anyone have a copy of this they burned to cd or an mp3 in good shape? I am willing to trade.
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edtop40 wrote:
it IS a remix and cannot be re-created from any cd currently available..... |
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You are correct that the 45 cannot be recreated from any CD. Actually, though, only the first :28 are remixed. The remainder sounds like the same mix to me, although there is an edit after the second chorus that omits most of the "how will we feel 20 years from now" bits.
I tried editing the intro from the 45 onto the CD version to recreate the 45, but the sonic differences between the 45 and CD were too obvious.
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Pat:
Regarding "I Can't Wait" by Stevie Nicks, the database currently states:
(dj copies of this 45 run (4:01) the)
I'm sure there was a technical error that caused this comment to trail off. I thought I'd bring this to your attention so you can re-type what the rest of the comment is supposed to say.
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The comment should read to the effect that the (4:01) dj copy is called the "soft intro" while the (4:14) version is called the "rock intro".
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Pat Downey wrote:
The comment should read to the effect that the (4:01) dj copy is called the "soft intro" while the (4:14) version is called the "rock intro". |
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EDIT: Please disregard the information in this post. It was later discovered (see below) that the record company put the labels on the wrong side of the promo 45. The "Soft Intro" is the 4:01 version with unique audio on the intro. The "Rock Intro" is the 4:14 version that is an edit of the LP version.
DISREGARD THIS: I'm looking at the labels of the promo 45, and this information is actually reversed in the database and in Pat's post. The 4:01 version is the "Rock Intro," and it's also labeled as "Edit of LP Version" on the sleeve. The 4:14 version is the "Soft Intro." The sleeve is actually mislabled, though, because the "Soft Intro" is the "Edit of LP Version."
Edited by aaronk on 23 April 2013 at 10:57am
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Since I can't seem to find a promo from any sellers online, was the stock 45 the most played version of this song back in the 80's? I can't remember what version we played.
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my commercial 45 issued as modern 99565 does not state a version, other than "vocal" but it is identical to the "rock intro" dj 45 version with a run time on the label as 4:01 and does indeed run that length
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Roscoe MusicFan
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edtop40 wrote:
my commercial 45 issued as modern 99565
does not state a version, other than "vocal" but it is
identical to the "rock intro" dj 45 version with a run
time on the label as 4:01 and does indeed run that
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I'm getting confused on what the "rock intro" version
sounds like. I have owned 2 or 3 commercial 45s of this
song over the years, and they all begin with a synth
intro that consists of the melody of the chorus with no
percussion. When the percussion kicks in at :14, there
is a spoken line "How will we feel 20 years from now",
then "Yes I know you" sung by the backup singers. This
intro is unique to the 45; the LP version begins with an
acapella "I can't wait" line heavily reverbed and
repeated.
Does the above describe the "rock intro" version?
My copy's matrix is 79 95657 but doesn't indicate a
specific version; it just has a notation "* Alternate
version of song available on LP "Rock A Little".
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CORRECTED INFO: Roscoe, you are correct that the "Soft Intro" (commercial 45) has a synth intro. This audio is unique to that version.
The other version issued on a promo 45, the "Rock Intro," can be re-created using the LP version.
Edited by aaronk on 23 April 2013 at 10:58am
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I just received the promo 45, which includes an insert noting the label errors. It reads:
"Due to an error in the printing of the labels, the first copy of the single that you received had the intros reversed. This corrected copy is printed in the way it was always meant to be.
Rock Intro - 4:14
Soft Intro - 4:01"
I am a little confused by Aaron's comment below because the 4:01 version labeled as the "Soft Intro" is clearly the version which includes the unique synth intro. The "Rock Version", on the other hand, includes the standard LP intro. In fact, it is (correctly) referred to on the outer sleeve as "Edit of LP Version - Rock Intro".
aaronk wrote:
Roscoe, you are correct that the "Rock Intro" (commercial 45) has a synth intro. This audio is unique to that version.
The other version issued on a promo 45, the "Soft Intro," can be re-created using the LP version. |
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995wlol wrote:
I am a little confused by Aaron's comment below because the 4:01 version labeled as the "Soft Intro" is clearly the version which includes the unique synth intro. The "Rock Version", on the other hand, includes the standard LP intro. In fact, it is (correctly) referred to on the outer sleeve as "Edit of LP Version - Rock Intro".
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After all these years, the confusion is finally cleared up :) The copy of the promo I was looking at had the 45 labels reversed in error. Therefore, when I played the side labeled "Rock Intro," it played the version with the synthesizer at the beginning (commercial 45 version with unique audio). Now we know that this was a mistake by the record company, and it's the "Soft Intro" version that has the synthesizer beginning.
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To re-create the "rock edit," (side A of the radio promo) starting from the album version from Rock A Little:
Remove about the first five seconds, basically cutting the run of keyboards in half. Fade from silence to Stevie's first vocals... and it sounds to me like a linear fade up to "I will love you..."
From what is left, delete about 13 seconds from 2:57 to about 3:10, on the downbeat.
That's it! The LP fade appears to match the single (although the video I used cuts off the very last "how can I love you?" that Stevie sings on the LP version before silence).
My file became 4:17, which suggests either the 4:14 length is a little short or the single runs a little faster than the LP version. I'll leave that decision up to someone with vinyl to compare.
Based on the YouTube video of the single I used,
the single is at:
0:00 -- faster than the LP version
1:30 -- in sync with the LP version
2:00 -- slower thank the LP version
3:30 -- in sync with the LP version
It's hard to imagine this is intentional. Is it stretched tape? A bad turntable? A bad CD of the LP? I don't know.
Edited by NightAire on 27 November 2020 at 11:46am
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Wiped out first post I made on this since I found the
music files.
Here is what I have:
the 3:51 song is from The Very Best Of Stevie Nicks.
It is an edit that is a little different mix of the
soft side of the Promo single.
Number 2 is the promo mix of the rock intro, but it
fades at 4:01.
Now it gets interesting.
Version 3 says video version at 4:17, which should be
the rock version.
The last one I have is "Time/Space version remix at
4:37 and is a dance version with major differences
from any other version.
Hope I didn't muddy the waters too much!
Edited by garye on 27 November 2020 at 9:33pm
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Gene - Using Aaron's files as a reference:
The 45 runs 125.8 BPM until the last little bit of the song, which runs at 125.4 BPM.
The promo 45 runs at 126.0 until 0:41, then 125.8 BPM until the last little bit of the song, which runs at 125.4 BPM.
If the version on Timespace (1991) is truly the LP version, then it runs at 125.5 BPM until about 0:45, then at 125.4 until the last little bit of the song.
I wouldn't worry much about the slight difference in tempos. This all strikes me as normal variations in tape machine speeds. This was very common in the age of drum machine and analog tape decks.
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GaryE: Are you saying there was a promo version that was an early fade of the "rock intro" (which is an edit of the LP version)? I never came across such a thing; I'd be interested to know your source.
CFTP: That's good news. I know some people want to get the tempo / pitch exactly right on single versions and I just didn't have enough info to confirm how close the LP version was to the single. :)
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NightAire wrote:
GaryE: Are you saying there was a
promo version that was an early fade of the "rock
intro" (which is an edit of the LP version)? I never
came across such a thing; I'd be interested to know
your source.
CFTP: That's good news. I know some people want to
get the tempo / pitch exactly right on single versions
and I just didn't have enough info to confirm how
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The info I have says "single edit from LP rock
version".
I can send you all the edits I have if you PM me.
Listening to each should give you an idea what each
version is.
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Just a note because it's not mentioned here: The single-disc version of the 2019 Rhino release "Stevie Nicks – Stand Back" contains the 45 "Soft Intro" edit of "I Can't
Wait" as well as the single versions of Stevie's other hits. It's worth picking up to get all the right versions.
https://www.discogs.com/release/13422776-Stevie-Nicks-Stand- Back
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