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aaronk
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Posted: 06 November 2010 at 10:23am \| IP Logged

NightAire wrote:

Does this mean that even having the 5:01 DJ copy (thank you, you know how you are) won't allow you to create the short DJ edit, or are you simply saying the short DJ edit can't be made from the album version?

Both. The short promo has unique audio on the ending.

Edited by aaronk on 06 November 2010 at 12:50pm

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Posted: 23 February 2014 at 9:52pm \| IP Logged

Does anyone know if the 12" mix of "Dreamtime" has been released on CD anywhere?

(It amazes me how many 12" mixes of '80s singles exist, and how many I didn't know about! For instance, tonight I saw an upcoming 5-CD Bee Gees box set that has the extended mix of "You Win Again". That's one of my favorites from the '80s, and I didn't even know there WAS an extended version until tonight. I wonder how many other extended mixes of '80s hits I don't even know about.)

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Posted: 25 February 2014 at 7:42am \| IP Logged

EdisonLite wrote:

I've always been pretty well aware of the number of '80s hits that have extended 12" versions (even "rock" songs - not just dance or r&b hits); the problem for me has always been finding them on cassette (in the '80s & '90s) and/or CD (2000s), since I've never been a huge fan of vinyl. And while I don't have a ton of them, I probably own just as many vinyl 12" singles as I do LPs, just because I know I can't get those mixes in either of the other two formats...

And to make matters worse, over the years I've noticed that U.S. record labels have been much more reluctant to release 12" versions on CD vs. their overseas counterparts, so in many cases, if I can find the 12" version of a favorite song on CD, I have to settle for a more-costly import, not to mention the added shipping! So alas, I, too, still have a huge laundry list of 12" versions that I'd love to eventually get on CD. But that's cool about the 12" version of "You Win Again" finally making it onto CD (didn't know about it till I read your post). I actually ran out & bought the song's original parent album, E-S-P, on cassette after hearing that song just once or twice back in late '87, when it was still considered very UNCOOL to be a Bee Gees fan! Your post just made me look up the 12" version on YouTube, and sure enough, it was there - I don't think I'd ever heard it before. For me, anyway, it was great to know that the trio was back at the time, and I was very curious to hear how they'd updated their "sound" for the late '80s. I wasn't disappointed - in fact, I actually liked the title track (which was the second single) even better! Original 1987 video on YouTube: Bee Gees - "E-S-P" But sadly, the Bee Gees "backlash" was still in force, and the song failed to chart at all here in the U.S., despite my hopes each week when I opened up my latest issue of Billboard that I'd just bought fresh off the newsstand... :-(

Anyway, this doesn't answer your question, but since you brought up Daryl Hall & 12" versions, it was only just a few months ago that I discovered that Hall & Oates actually made a production video for the (5:44) 12" "rock mix" of their 1983 hit, "Family Man", which has always been one of my top three songs of theirs! (The song was actually co-written and originally recorded by Mike Oldfield in 1982, BTW.) I'd always known there was an extended 12" version of the song (and it's even available on several U.S. CDs), but all these years, and I'd only seen & known of the video for the (3:24) 45/LP version, as originally shown on MTV, VH-1, etc. - which it turns out is an edited version of the full-length video made for the 12" "rock mix". I stumbled across it on YouTube just by accident, and when I realized it wasn't just some homemade video that a fan had thrown together for this extended version, my jaw dropped, lol: Hall & Oates - "Family Man" (original 12" "rock mix" video) So the 12" versions of a few hits from the '80s even got some love in video form. :-) (Oh, and congrats to H&O for FINALLY making it into the R'n'R HoF this year!)

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Posted: 28 February 2014 at 7:46pm \| IP Logged

EdisonLite wrote:

Does anyone know if the 12" mix of
"Dreamtime" has been released on CD anywhere?

I
wish I could help you with the 12" mix of "Dreamtime" but
I've never seen it on CD. However, the LP length version
does actually appear on a budget release from 2013. This
ten track compilation is titled The 80s Hall & Oates (bar
code info is 88883778172) and is on the Sony Music label.
I found it at Best Buy this week along with several
others that are a part of this US budget series. Some of
the others I recall are discs for the Outlaws, Van
Morrison, Cheap Trick, Ted Nugent, Blue Oyster Cult, Men
At Work, Bob Dylan, Elvis Presley, Dean Martin, Pure
Prairie League and Gary Puckett & The Union Gap. Each
disc is just ten tracks and every song is from the same
decade. So for example: Bob Dylan had two different
discs, one for the 60s and a second disc for the 70s.
Same for Elvis. The Cheap Trick disc I saw was just 70s
songs. If there is an 80s disc for this artist I didn't
see it, but it may exist. I only purchased the Hall &
Oates disc since I noticed this must be the first time
ever Daryl's solo hit appears on a CD hits compilation
for the duo (BTW, there is nothing new on this disc when
it comes to versions and or edits that have yet to appear
on a domestic CD release).

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Posted: 01 March 2014 at 9:12am \| IP Logged

I have the album version of "Dreamtime" on CD from the parent album ("Three Hearts..."), which incidentally is the shortest version of the song. I also have the longer, single length version on CD single - and the 12" on cleaned vinyl (but only mp3 format, not WAV ... or even vinyl, for that matter).

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Posted: 01 March 2014 at 7:45pm \| IP Logged

As far as commercially released versions, you're right, Gordon. But the US promo 45 has the shortest version, running about 4:00.

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Posted: 03 March 2014 at 12:25pm \| IP Logged

oh ok, Aaron. I only have the commercial 45, which has the longer single length.

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Posted: 09 March 2014 at 11:14pm \| IP Logged

Turns out the 12" extended remix of "Dreamtime", which clocks in at 7:55 HAS made its way to CD. Three years ago, the Japanese reissue of Daryl's "Three Hearts ..." CD included 3 bonus cuts, including this one. So I just ordered it. (Luckily, it's still in print - and it was even a decent price for a Japanese import.)

Thanks to my Sony contact for bringing this release to my attention. Otherwise, I don't think I ever would have known about it.

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Posted: 23 March 2014 at 12:27pm \| IP Logged

The 12-inch version is also available on this download-only foreign compilation from Sony, which is available in lossless format on the French website Qobuz (need to go through a proxy server to get it):

http://www.amazon.co.uk/80s-100-Remixes-Various/dp/B00IL5Y49 O

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Posted: 11 January 2016 at 6:18pm \| IP Logged

There is no mention of the Promo CD single in the Database so here is some info:

CR-14386
1. 4:48 (no mix designated) (listed 4:48; actual 5:02)

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Posted: 12 January 2020 at 5:08am \| IP Logged

There is a 4:06 version of Dreamtime on this cd which
Almost matches the promo 45 version.

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Raised-On-Rock-80s-Rock-
US/release/10134866

Edited by Gem80s on 12 January 2020 at 5:15am

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Posted: 12 January 2020 at 9:55am \| IP Logged

Have you compared it to the promo 45, and if so, whats different?

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Posted: 12 January 2020 at 2:05pm \| IP Logged

The version on this cd is the 4:02 version.
It also appears on this cd

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Burning-Heart-
2/release/6229935

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Posted: 13 January 2020 at 11:08am \| IP Logged

Thanks again for the tip. I went ahead and ordered the Raised On Rock CD.

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Posted: 14 January 2020 at 2:55am \| IP Logged

No problems Aaron.
It's good that this version is on a few cds.

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Posted: 10 July 2021 at 3:03pm \| IP Logged

Wow, this is a long thread! I have an mp3 file of the
4:02 version that was sent to me a long time ago.
Someone mentioned in the thread that that the promo cd
clocking in at 5:00 (which I have and used to create the
short version) can't be edited down to the 45 length due
to unique mix at the end. Does anyone have a dub of the
promo 45 mix the can send so I can compare and see if
what I have is authentic or not? Much appreciated.

Edited by promojunkie on 12 July 2021 at 5:43am

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Posted: 05 September 2021 at 1:40am \| IP Logged

Hey Rick, sent you a PM. And yes, the 5:02 version cannot be edited down to the 4:03 7" Version - the 4:03 edit has unique vocals over its last 20-30 seconds.

Whereas the 5:02 version could be edited down to the 4:44 LP version - the LP version is essentially an early fade of the 5:02.

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Posted: 05 September 2021 at 2:39am \| IP Logged

Dreamtime is one of my very favorite Daryl Hall songs. Below is a list of the unique versions, with CD sources where available:

4:44 - LP version
From the 1986 Three Hearts in the Happy Ending Machine CD - RCA PCD1-7196.

5:02 - Single Version (and video version)
The same mix as the LP version but faded 18 seconds later. Its mostly instrumental for those additional 18 seconds, punctuated by Daryl's periodic vocalizations.
To my knowledge it's only available on CD via the Dreamtime promo CD-Single - RCA CR-14386.

4:03 - 7 Version / Edited Version
Usually listed as 3:57 but times out to 4:03, sometimes 4:04. The mix is similar to the LP version until 3:35, where an edit allows the song to skip past the string section breakdown.
From there it features unique lead vocals not found on the LP/Single versions.
Its available on the import Burning Heart 2 compilation (Insight 553 855-2), though that may be a vinyl dub.

7:55 - Extended Remixed Version
It's on the 2011 Three Hearts Japan mini-LP - RCA SICP-20338; may be a vinyl rip.
There's also a 7:07 edit of this remix on the I Wasn't Born Yesterday UK 12" - Hall T2.

7:49 - Dub Version
Unavailable on CD as of 2021.

4:44 - Instrumental Version
Found on the Dreamtime UK 12" - RCA Hall T1 R. For the most part its the LP version sans vocals - until 3:35.
At that point the LP version begins breaking down into the strings+harpsichord section, before building back up. The instrumental keeps the full band sound throughout. Not available on CD.

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Posted: 10 September 2021 at 9:41am \| IP Logged

So the 7"/Edited version is NOT on this one?

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Raised-On-Rock-80s-Rock-
US/release/10134866

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Posted: 10 September 2021 at 10:35am \| IP Logged

Kiefer2 wrote:

So the 7"/Edited version is NOT on this
one?

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Raised-On-Rock-80s-Rock-
US/release/10134866

It could be. If it's 4:06 like it says on Discogs, the
extra few seconds could be just blank space at the end of
the track.

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