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thecdguy wrote:
| That sounds about right. For #2, I would make a notation of , "Includes the line, "I believe this time they're gonna stay"." |
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I agree. Added that to the summary above. Now we just need the versions that run 2:38 in the online database labeled "earlier non-hit LP version" or something to that effect. Looks like it's the shorter promo edit that has never made it to a domestic CD. From what I gather it's just one simple edit.
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There is a 5th version which is the 45 version remixed that appears on several cd's such as Billboard's Top Soft Rock Hits - 1972 (Rhino 72738).
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I just found a download on this song.
It says LP version but times out at 2:40.
So what do I have then?
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garye,
You likely have the 1970 "Danny OKeefe" LP version.
Just to add another layer of intrigue (but not confusion) to this one, the
song was first recorded by O'Keefe c. 1967, but not released. That version
was first issued on 1977 LP "The Seattle Tapes". And good ole YouTube has
a rip of that LP, so you can hear that version too!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Laz_WDNSLok
Finally, it was first issued by The Bards as "Goodtime Charlies Got The
Blues" and released in 1969 as the b-side to "Tunesmith" on Jerden 907
(January) then on Parrot 337 (March).
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Gotcha,David. Sometimes you almost need a scorecard to
keep up with some the songs with different versions
around!
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I'll try and summarize:
Non-hit version from 1970 Danny O'Keefe LP on Cotillion Records
This version has a flute instead of a harmonica. Runs 2:38.
According to the database, it's found on four CDs, none of which I own:- JCI's Mellow Seventies
- Coyote's Rock The Planet - Mellow 70's
- Reader's Digest's Blowin' In The Wind (Box Set)
- GSC Music's Rock The Planet Vol. 3 - 34 All-Time Favorites (Box Set)
I'd bet a shiny new nickel that the later three discs are based on the mastering from the JCI disc, but can't confirm.
Non-hit version from 1972 O'Keefe LP on Signpost Records
The opening three beats of the song are just a single acoustic guitar. The line from 0:18 to 0:22 is "I believe this time they're gonna stay." Runs 2:58.
I have this version on just one CD: Sound Exchange/Warner Special Products 2-CD Seventies Feelings (1995)
Hit version from 1972 45 on Signpost Records
The opening three beats of the song include the acoustic guitar, but with additional bongos, a soft hi-hat in the left channel, and a harmonica. The line from 0:18 to 0:22 is "Said they're moving to L.A." Runs 2:58.
My oldest CD with this version is Time-Life's Superhits Vol. 11 1972 (1991), where it sounds a little muddy, and has its left and right channels reversed. (All tracks on this disc have their left and right channels reversed.) There are digitally identical clones on:- Time-Life's AM Gold Vol. 7 1972 (1991)
- Time-Life's AM Gold Vol. 7 1972 RE-1 reissue (1991)
- Time-Life's 2-CD Singers And Songwriters Vol. 9 Early '70s (2000)
Two years after Superhits came out, Bill Inglot did a far better analog transfer (same version; not a remix) on Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 17 (1993), which has the correct left and right channels. There's a digitally identical clone on:- Rhino's Billboard Top Soft Rock Hits 1972 (1997)
Radio version from 1972 promo 45 on Signpost Records
Based on the commercial (hit) 45 version, but cuts out the verse that includes the line "pills to ease the pain." Runs about 2:38. I don't have editing instructions.
Not available on CD.
Based on all of the above info, I think the database may need to be updated.
Edited by crapfromthepast on 19 February 2020 at 10:10pm
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Ron, the section from 1:50 to 2:12 is removed from the hit
commercial 45 to create the radio version.
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davidclark wrote:
I believe the Reader's Digest version I mentioned is actually the version found
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From what I'm picking up here, your Readers Digest version is the same as the JCI Mellow Seventies, and was taken from the 1970 LP version. It's interesting because
I picked up a handful of these JCI discs in an ebay lot the other day. I was sure surprised to hear the changes in the song I'm so familiar with. I think this
disc may be the first time I've heard it arranged this way. I just assumed it was a later take, only to read here that it was actually an earlier one. It sure seems
peculiar that I missed this one. I only had 52 +/- years to figure it out.
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davidclark wrote:
I've a version on a Reader's Digest
compilation that runs about 2:40 that appears to be a
different recording from the 45 version. It contains a
flute instead of a harmonica. Might that be the version
from the 1972 "O'Keefe" LP? The little snippet that I can
play from iTunes from the "O'Keefe" album also has a
flute and is indicated as running 2:43. |
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Sounds like you have the Cotillion version from 1970, pre
hit single on Signpost. Corrected to reflect facts.
Edited by KentT on 03 March 2022 at 8:32pm
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crapfromthepast wrote:
Radio version from 1972 promo 45 on Signpost Records
Based on the commercial (hit) 45 version, but cuts out the verse that includes the line "pills to ease the pain." Runs about 2:38.
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Only some promos were this way, maybe a reservice after some stations complained about the line? My promo is mono/stereo of the 3:02
version, and I'm 99% sure that's what we played where I worked in the autumn of '72.
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