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Santi Paradoa
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Posted: 15 September 2017 at 5:38pm \| IP Logged

Hard To Find 45s On CD, Vol . 18: 70s Essentials

Coming in October from Eric Records:

1. Venus – Shocking Blue (DES Stereo)
2. Fox On The Run – Sweet
3. Hocus Pocus – Focus
4. The Boys Are Back In Town – Thin Lizzy (correct 45 edit)
5. Tubular Bells – Mike Oldfield (correct 45 edit)
6. My Melody Of Love – Bobby Vinton (rare on CD)
7. Paloma Blanca – George Baker Selection (rare on CD)
8. The Night Chicago Died – Paper Lace
9. Tired Of Toein’ The Line – Rocky Burnette
10. Gypsy Woman – Brian Hyland (DES Stereo)
11. Good Morning Starshine – Oliver
12. Words – F.R. David
13. I’ve Never Been To Me – Charlene
14. Sometimes When We Touch – Dan Hill
15. Daddy Don’t You Walk So Fast – Wayne Newton (rare on CD)
16. Daisy A Day – Jud Strunk (rare on CD)
17. Feels So Good – Chuck Mangione
18. Eighteen With A Bullet – Pete Wingfield
19. She’s A Bad Mama Jama (She's Built, She's Stacked) – Carl Carlton
20. Born To Be Alive – Patrick Hernandez
21. Music – John Miles (U.S. CD debut)

You can pre-order as well as hear sound samples at http://www.ericrecords.com. Street release date is October 27, but order direct now for early delivery.

Edited by Santi Paradoa on 15 September 2017 at 8:10pm

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Posted: 15 September 2017 at 6:06pm \| IP Logged

Some pretty cool tunes on this disc. Even though it is mostly 70s tracks there is a cool 80s low charter on here ("Words" by F.R. David), a couple of brand new stereo cuts, a couple of rare 45 edits plus the U.S. CD debut of "Music" by John Miles (a low charter that should have fared better on the U.S. singles charts back in 1976).

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Posted: 15 September 2017 at 11:10pm \| IP Logged

And, the Carl Carlton song is from 1981. I can simply
omit the Charlene track.

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Posted: 16 September 2017 at 6:11pm \| IP Logged

Does the Charlene song have the spoken part over the
bridge? The original Prodigal release from 1977 did not,
but stock copies of the 1982 reissue did (promos had the
spoken part on one side, without it on the other).

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Posted: 16 September 2017 at 8:24pm \| IP Logged

Mark can confirm, but IIRC, he told me it has the spoken word part. I wish the non-spoken bridge would appear on one CD, and this would have been the opportunity, but I'm sure there was pressure to use the more common version heard on the radio.

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Posted: 17 September 2017 at 5:47am \| IP Logged

Thanks Mark, for all the info you've shared with us here!

Can I assume that this version of "Tubular Bells" is the excellent version that Aaron painstakingly put together a few years ago, or was the single source tape located?

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Well, I dug through the tracks in Vol. 18. The good news: everything sounds great, pretty much flawless on every track on the disc. I was hoping to trace out some nice mastering history, but it's not as cut-and-dry as on previous volumes. I found only one digital clone. All track have great dynamic range, nice EQ (some are almost boomy compared to older discs), and no trace of noise reduction anywhere. Here are my notes:

VENUS - Shocking Blue (1969)
Holy smoke! This sounds impossibly fantastic in DES stereo! Even folded down to mono, this sounds far better than any other CD version out there.

FOX ON THE RUN - Sweet (1975)
EQ a little boomy. The EQ on this song never quite sounds right, much like Dead Or Alive's "You Spin Me Round".

HOCUS POCUS - Focus (1973)
likely uses the same analog transfer as Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 23

THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN - Thin Lizzy (1976)
True 45 edit. Rock on!

TUBULAR BELLS - Mike Oldfield (1974)
True 45 edit. Sounds significantly better than the version I have from Qobuz (no background hum, etc.)

MY MELODY OF LOVE - Bobby Vinton (1974)
sounds better than earlier masterings; lower-generation source tape?

PALOMA BLANCA - George Baker Selection (1975)
likely uses the same analog transfer as Varese's Lost 45s Of The '70s And '80s Vol. 2

THE NIGHT CHICAGO DIED - Paper Lace (1974)
likely uses the same analog transfer as Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 13 but with L/R channels reversed (was the Rhino disc in error?)

TIRED OF TOEIN' THE LINE - Rocky Burnette (1980)
sound quality comparable to Rhino's Radio Daze Vol. 3, faded to 45 length; other CDs are all over the map with sound quality

GYPSY WOMAN - Brian Hyland (1970)
DES stereo. All the other versions I have are in mono.

GOOD MORNING STARSHINE - Oliver (1969)
sounds a wee bit better than JCI's Mellow Sixties

WORDS - F.R. David (1983)
extends longer than other CDs

I'VE NEVER BEEN TO ME - Charlene (1982)
much fuller EQ than earlier discs

SOMETIMES WHEN WE TOUCH - Dan Hill (1977)
likely uses the same analog transfer as Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 21

DADDY DON'T YOU WALK SO FAST - Wayne Newton (1972)
from vinyl (I think), but better transfer than Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 16, and fade extends longer

DAISY A DAY - Jud Strunk (1973)
likely uses the same analog transfer as Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 11

FEELS SO GOOD - Chuck Mangione (1978)
likely uses the same analog transfer as Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 24, but sped up by 1.4% and faded early

EIGHTEEN WITH A BULLET - Pete Wingfield (1975)
likely uses the same analog transfer as Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 15 but with L/R channels swapped and intro fixed

SHE'S A BAD MAMA JAMA (SHE'S BUILT SHE'S STACKED) - Carl Carlton (1981)
differently-EQ digital clone of Time-Life's Solid Gold Soul Vol. 29 Make It Funky (2001)

BORN TO BE ALIVE - Patrick Hernandez (1979)
sound quality comparable to Rhino's Billboard Top Dance Hits 1979 (1992)

MUSIC - John Miles (1976)
I don't have anything else to compare this with. Quite a rare track indeed.

Edited by crapfromthepast on 04 July 2018 at 8:19pm

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Posted: 04 July 2018 at 8:30pm \| IP Logged

crapfromthepast wrote:

Well, I dug through the tracks in Vol. 18...

Thanks for the details!

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Posted: 07 July 2018 at 4:28pm \| IP Logged

I think the vocals are a little too low on "Venus". That is the only complaint I have so far for all the DES tracks on this disc and all earlier Eric DES efforts. I really enjoy the hard and tedious work this group has done

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Posted: 07 July 2018 at 5:54pm \| IP Logged

C J Brown wrote:

I think the vocals are a little too low on "Venus".

C J, Mark was kind enough to send me an evaluation preview of that track, and that was my observation as well. He said that there wasn't any way to bring the vocals more forward in the mix with the current level of DES technology. Hopefully, that'll be possible to do in the not-too-distant future.

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Posted: 12 July 2018 at 3:56pm \| IP Logged

Thank you for the great review Ron!

I agree with the above comments about "Venus"... the 6 people who auditioned it before release never picked up the vocal issues and I didn't notice it until I got feedback after release. :-(

A few answers:

[QUOTE=crapfromthepast] Well, I dug through the tracks in Vol. 18. The good news: everything sounds great, pretty much flawless on every track on the disc. I was hoping to trace out some nice mastering history, but it's not as cut-and-dry as on previous volumes. I found only one digital clone. All track have great dynamic range, nice EQ (some are almost boomy compared to older discs), and no trace of noise reduction anywhere. Here are my notes:

FOX ON THE RUN - Sweet (1975)
EQ a little boomy. The EQ on this song never quite sounds right, much like Dead Or Alive's "You Spin Me Round".
---agreed this was mastered too "smiley face" ..

TUBULAR BELLS - Mike Oldfield (1974)
True 45 edit. Sounds significantly better than the version I have from Qobuz (no background hum, etc.)

---yeah the UMG master has all that noise so we used Aaron's perfect re-creation on our set. Thank you Aaron!

MY MELODY OF LOVE - Bobby Vinton (1974)
sounds better than earlier masterings; lower-generation source tape?
...YES!

THE NIGHT CHICAGO DIED - Paper Lace (1974)
likely uses the same analog transfer as Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 13 but with L/R channels reversed (was the Rhino disc in error?)
---YES! I checked all the L/R channels against the 45s.

TIRED OF TOEIN' THE LINE - Rocky Burnette (1980)
sound quality comparable to Rhino's Radio Daze Vol. 3, faded to 45 length; other CDs are all over the map with sound quality
....came from the fine single master. :-)

DADDY DON'T YOU WALK SO FAST - Wayne Newton (1972)
from vinyl (I think), but better transfer than Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 16, and fade extends longer
...NO vinyl here..master tape, also faded to match the 45.

FEELS SO GOOD - Chuck Mangione (1978)
likely uses the same analog transfer as Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 24, but sped up by 1.4% and faded early
...yeah the digital file UMG gives out matches the Rhino CD so we pitched and faded to match the 45.

EIGHTEEN WITH A BULLET - Pete Wingfield (1975)
likely uses the same analog transfer as Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 15 but with L/R channels swapped and intro fixed
.....the digital file UMG gives out matches the Island Story. But with your help and feedback Ron, we decided to use the Rhino transfer, we fixed the intro, and Eq'd and pitched to match the single which was very crisp.

BORN TO BE ALIVE - Patrick Hernandez (1979)
sound quality comparable to Rhino's Billboard Top Dance Hits 1979 (1992)
...yes I used that as my source because the overseas rights owners do not have the US single master, Sony does.

.....Ron, next time we do any 70s or 80s I will consult you and Brian again anytime I am "outvoted" or I am unsure on EQ! I did that for the last 80s CDs and those turned out great!
Thank you again
MM

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Posted: 12 July 2018 at 4:24pm \| IP Logged

Mark and Everyone. I really enjoy all of the additional comments regarding versions, mixes, EQ, pitch and other details about the Eric tracks. Thanks to everyone.

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Posted: 12 July 2018 at 4:45pm \| IP Logged

Love the final result of Aaron's "Tubular Bells" and Ron should ALWAYS be consulted when putting these CDs together!

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Posted: 12 July 2018 at 6:43pm \| IP Logged

Thanks, Paul!

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Posted: 12 July 2018 at 8:12pm \| IP Logged

Thanks, everyone!

And thanks, Mark, for peeling back the curtain a bit for Eric's fine collection. I'm sure all of us appreciate the minutia on how you put it together.

Now off to Vol. 19!

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The DES of "Venus" on this collection is amazingly fine.
Worth buying the CD for alone!

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Speaking of Hard To Find Hits I wonder if the stereo "A Young Girl" by Noel Harrison will ever surface. The mono has surfaced once or twice that I know of. I have also been requesting " The Pied Piper" by the Changing Times and "Lullaby Of Love" by the Poppies. I have never got an answer about stereo Noel Harrison. I have been told that The Pied Piper was not a big enough hit. The song went top 10 in at least 5 major Southwest cities including LA KHJ. Seen chart action all across the country fall of 1965.

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I have “A Young Girl” in stereo on a 1997 Canadian Polytel CD “The
One And Only 60's Album”.

Edited by davidclark on 18 July 2018 at 5:00am

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Posted: 18 July 2018 at 4:30pm \| IP Logged

A legit release - thanks David Clark

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crapfromthepast wrote:

Ugh! I can't find my copy of this disc. It got buried in our recent move.

I was wanting to see if this version had the background clicks, (2 or 3 of them), in the near end of the song. I have heard a number of different CDs that seem to have the same clicks. I used to think it was a
metronome or a vinyl pop sound. But, I suppose it could be anything. Even someone making a chair pop during the recording. I tried looking around on the forum but, didn't see anything mentioned.

I am also wanting to see if it has the single version of "Feels So Good" by Chuck Mangione. After listening mainly to the full album version, the '45 is sort of hard to stomach.

"D" is for Dave. "Hey you" works too.

Edited by AdvprosD on 28 July 2020 at 10:11pm

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