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Ron,
You missed a few things. As you'll see above Ed's
original 45 with green label does not have the echo on
the boss' voice and ends cold.
Ron Furmanek did NOT remix this track. There were NO
multi-tracks for this song. What Ron put out was the 1st
generation mono master which had no echo and had the cold
end. Obviously this original mono made it on to some
commercial pressings. We must not forget Ed's stock 45
(dead wax posted above).
The later with-echo, faded 45 I assume was the 2nd
pressing since the echo effects were added to it. I also
assume the with-echo 2nd pressing is the "hit" and more
common since THAT was the version I always got on vinyl
V/A comps back in the day. But both versions made it to
stock 45s.
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Mark - You are 100% correct. I edited my post above to reflect the correct info.
The credits of the 1991 CD state: "Track remixed by Ron Furmanek, Bob Norberg, Kevin Reeves, and Larry Walsh." "This compilation was mastered from the original studio session tapes. Full track mono, 2-track stereo, and 3 & 4 track masters." Most of the songs on this disc are labeled as "ADD", so those are likely the ones that are remixed. Some are listed as stereo "AAD", so I assume those are the original mixes and in stereo. A handful of songs, including "Summertime Blues", are listed as being mono "AAD", which is likely the original mixes in mono.
And in the spirit of "hiding in plain sight", there's a YouTube video if the 45 being played. The audio isn't great, but it's good enough to tell the absence of echo on the response vocals and the cold ending.
Thanks for setting me straight!
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I'm kind of the opposite of most people in
this thread. To me, the no-echo, no-fade
version is the correct version; the echoed
vocals always sounded weird to me. That's
probably because my original 45, F-55144,
is the "dry" mix. I got my 45 used in the
1970s. It matches exactly the EMI Legends
of Rock 'n' Roll CD version, which I also
have.
The trail-off of my 45 is 45-LB-0859-1
(etched) C1 (stamped).
It appears as if four pressing plants made
original 45 rpm copies of "Summertime
Blues":
-- RCA Rockaway, NJ
-- RCA Indianapolis, IN
-- RCA Hollywood, CA
-- Monarch (delta numbers in trail-off)
(It also was pressed on 78, but I don't
know much about that.)
It seems as if the copies from RCA
Rockaway, which were distributed in the
Northeast U S. where I grew up, have the
no-fade, no-echo version. The 45s from the
other three plants have the echoed, early-
fade version. One way to distinguish the
Rockaway version is that "Vocal With
Orchestra" is on the left side of
the label. The Indianapolis version has
"Voc. With Orch." on the right side
of the label, and the West Coast copies
have "Vocal With Orchestra" on the
right side of the label.
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crapfromthepast wrote:
I agree with Yah Shure's recommendation completely - Rhino's Lil' Bit Of Gold (Rhino R3 73005, 1988) sounds great. If you find them for less $, the two Time-Life discs sound
just as good for this track, but be sure you get the RE-2 reissue of Rock 'N' Roll Era Vol. 5 1958, not the RE-1 reissue or the original pressing. |
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I took a look on the shelf last night and discovered I have two of the Time-Life Rock n Roll era 1958 CDs. One is RE-1, the other is RE-2. Now I have something to do
on New Year's day besides feeding my face and drinking tea.
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