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my commercial 45 is sunshine and meadow issued version for
the rolling stones song 'time is on my side'
issued as london 9708 which lists a run time on the label
as 2:50 but actually runs 2:55...you'll need to fade the
2:57 'singles' box set version for 0:11 from 2:44 to 2:55
to effectively re-create the vinyl 4 version......this 45
run time info s/b added to the db...
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Ed, London 45s on the "sunshine and meadow" London label are all later re-
issues, not the original pressing. My copy of the "Time Is On My Side" 45 is
on the purple and white London label, is confirmed as London 9708, has a
listed time of (2:50) and an actual time of (2:52). My 45 includes the organ
intro, which all 1964 45s did, and fades out. My deadwax info is a
handwritten, "DR-34146-1H".
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The 'sunshine and meadow' label pressings of London 9708 (which date from about the late 1970s) contain a completely different recording of "Time Is On My Side" than the original 45. This version is also on earlier versions of the Singles Collection: The London Years but the 45 version is on the remastered set.
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100% correct, Paul. Thanks for the additional info. That's why I mentioned
the original 45's organ intro and fade - to help easily differentiate.
The "sunshine and meadow" 45 re-recording starts with the long Keith
Richards guitar lick, and ends. This re-recording was actually made only 5
months after the hit version was, in Chicago, in 11/64; whereas the
original version was recorded in the UK, back in 6/64. This later version
first appeared in the U.S. on the 1966 LP, "Big Hits (High Tide And Green
Grass)". It also appeared on 1972's "Hot Rocks 1964-1971", which just
about every radio station in the U.S. has used, ever since, to play all the
early Stones hits off of. For this reason, I think that, out of all the Top 10
hits in history, this later, incorrect version of "Time Is On My Side" has
arguably gotten played on radio more than any other "bogus hit version"
in history has. In fact, a good number of folks (non-purists, obviously) do
prefer the re-recording over the original. And since the guitar intro
version has gotten radio airplay for so many years now, I'm convinced that
most folks not having clear 1964 radio memories of it just assume that it
*was* the original version! This is likely how our buddy Ed got tripped up
here.
Edited by jimct on 29 April 2013 at 7:22pm
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London's changeover to the sunshine and meadow design came at the very beginning of 1977, at least for pressings from Columbia Terre Haute. My stock copies of John Miles' 1976 non-charter "Remember Yesterday" (20089) are on the blue swirl label. His next single,"Slowdown" (20092) appeared just a few months later on the cheerier new design.
Concurrently, London's DJ 45s switched from the orange swirl to a polar-bear-in-a-raging-blizzard design (i.e. plain white background.)
For April Wine fans in the U.S., the changeover occurred somewhere between "Shotdown" (245) and "You Won't Dance With Me" (255, which happened to be backed with... "Shotdown.")
Jim, that's a valid point about the de facto replacement of the original "Time Is On My Side" with the High Tides version (my sister bought the mono LP and I remember thinking "what is that?" when I played "Time" for the first time.) You could also argue that the Animals' "We Gotta Get Out Of This Place" and - to a much-lesser airplay extent - Gerry & The Pacemakers' "I'll Be There" have similarly had their U.S. versions relegated to "what is that?" status as far as the general audience is concerned. At least we got two out of three back.
Edited by Yah Shure on 29 April 2013 at 7:45pm
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jimct wrote:
In fact, a good number of folks (non-purists, obviously) do prefer the re-recording over the original. And since the guitar intro version has gotten radio airplay for so many years now, I'm convinced that
most folks not having clear 1964 radio memories of it just assume that it *was* the original version! This is likely how our buddy Ed got tripped up here. |
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As usual Jim got it right here all I ever heard was the guitar intro on the radio. The Hot Rocks was a HUGE seller back in its day and still is going strong. I listened to the 45 version with the organ and I can see why they re-recorded it.
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Yah Shure wrote:
Concurrently, London's DJ 45s switched from the orange swirl to a polar-bear-in-a-raging-blizzard design (i.e.
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Interestingly, London started using the orange swirl on promo copies for good 6+ months while still using the purple and white label
on stock copies. I have several mid-late 1964 London promos (including TIOMS and "Tell Me") with the orange swirl label. The
earliest blue swirl 45 I have is "The Last Time". These were all from the northeast...maybe pressing plants in other parts of the
country went to the newer label sooner.
Earlier promo copies on the purple & white label were the same as stock except "promotional copy" was added.
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