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jimct
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Posted: 01 September 2009 at 11:54pm \| IP Logged

We got in two different promo CD singles for this song back in 1990, and here are all the particulars:

Janet Jackson-"Rhythm Nation" (CD 17915)
1-Edit (listed & actual 4:28)
2-LP Version (listed & actual 4:40)
3-Instrumental (listed 4:44; actual 4:43)

Janet Jackson-"Rhythm Nation" (The Remixes) (CD 17928)
1-7" CHR Remix (listed & actual 4:07)
2-7" United Mix Edit (listed & actual 4:22)
3-House Nation Edit (listed 4:36; actual 4:35)
4-12" United Mix (listed & actual 6:36)
5-12" House Nation Mix (listed & actual 8:06)
6-House Nation Groove (listed & actual 6:43)
7-Rhythm Mix (listed & actual 4:48)

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Posted: 02 September 2009 at 10:57am \| IP Logged

Jim, did you ever play the 7" CHR Remix on your station?

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Posted: 02 September 2009 at 11:39am \| IP Logged

my commercial cassingle issued as a&m 1455 does not state a version on the cardboard sleeve or the cassingle itself but contains the below 2 tracks

1-rhythm nation (4:27)
2-rhythm nation (instrumental) 4:44

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Posted: 02 September 2009 at 12:33pm \| IP Logged

aaronk wrote:

Jim, did you ever play the 7" CHR Remix on your station?

Aaron, if my memory is working properly at the moment, we stayed with the "Edit" from the first disc for all on-air play as a current, so the answer to your question is no.

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Can anyone confirm if the 4:39 version of Janet Jackson's "Rhythm Nation" appearing on the Soul Train 25th Anniversary box set (MCA 11329) is actually the "LP Version" radio edit from the promo CD single? Currently, the database shows a "neither the 45 nor LP version" comment for this entry.

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Posted: 10 November 2015 at 5:41pm \| IP Logged

Todd, I can't answer your question, but I can tell you how to make the single edit from the LP version.

First, I should say the vinyl copy I have (which is from the 12" "remixes" release) runs a hair slower than the CD version from Rhythm Nation 1814. I believe the turntable I used was accurate, but I can not say whether the 12" pressing was accurate to the original speed of either the 7" or the CD single.

Remove 0:00 to 0:12.731, ending at the beat with the "whoo!"

From your resulting file, remove 3:22 to 3:37.5, ending where Janet comes back in with "Rhythm Nation."

From your resulting file, remove 3:45 to 4:00.876, ending where Janet starts singing "Sing it to your baby" (or something similar; hard to make out).

The ONLY difference between the LP and single version which canNOT be re-created from the LP version is the "splash" at the end, which runs 2 & 1/4 seconds longer on the single but is cut off with talking on the LP version.

Other than that, you have a match.

Hope this helps!

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Posted: 11 November 2015 at 5:51pm \| IP Logged

You can actually recreate the 'edit' with the Number
Ones version.

Remove from 00:00 to 1:00.315
Keep from 1:00.315 to the end of song

The ending splash is intact with no talking over the
end. The resulting file runs 4:28.

Edited by eriejwg on 11 November 2015 at 6:02pm

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Posted: 26 January 2019 at 1:21pm \| IP Logged

So the version on the import "Design of the Decade" is not the edit version but
a different version?

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Posted: 26 January 2019 at 1:35pm \| IP Logged

edtop40 wrote:

my commercial cassingle issued as a&m 1455 does not
state a version on the cardboard sleeve or the cassingle itself but contains the
below 2 tracks

1-rhythm nation (4:27)
2-rhythm nation (instrumental) 4:44

The 4:27 is the edit version. It's the same as the 45 shown here....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUpBVWkSHG8

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Posted: 09 February 2019 at 10:58am \| IP Logged

Going back to this ....the edit version does remove the pledge?

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Posted: 02 December 2021 at 5:17pm \| IP Logged

Todd Ireland wrote:

Can anyone confirm if the 4:39
version of Janet Jackson's "Rhythm Nation" appearing on
the Soul Train 25th Anniversary box set (MCA
11329) is actually the "LP Version" radio edit from the
promo CD single? Currently, the database shows a
"neither the 45 nor LP version" comment for this entry.

Does anyone have this vinyl LP pressing of Rhythm
Nation 1814? I think the "LP version" might actually
reflect precisely that, the vinyl LP, in contrast to the
CD. On a Discogs rabbithole today, I noticed that the
vinyl pressing lists "Rhythm Nation" as 4:38, about a
minute shorter than the CD version. This was a long
album to put on vinyl, more than an hour, so it wouldn't
surprise me if they shaved parts down for a better fit on
a single LP.

More on this: looks like there are about three impacted
tracks:
Rhythm Nation (4:38 listed on LP vs. 5:31 on CD)
Miss You Much (3:53 vs. 4:12)
Alright (5:27 vs. 6:26)

Edited by eric_a on 02 December 2021 at 5:55pm

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Posted: 03 December 2021 at 5:22am \| IP Logged

eric_a wrote:

Todd Ireland wrote:

Can anyone confirm if the 4:39
version of Janet Jackson's "Rhythm Nation" appearing on
the Soul Train 25th Anniversary box set (MCA
11329) is actually the "LP Version" radio edit from the
promo CD single? Currently, the database shows a
"neither the 45 nor LP version" comment for this entry.

Same with State of the World Today. The LP version has an edit similar to the A&M radio promo CD track we received at our station. The CD has a longer version however.

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Posted: 03 December 2021 at 12:28pm \| IP Logged

eric_a wrote:

Todd Ireland wrote:

Can anyone confirm if the 4:39
version of Janet Jackson's "Rhythm Nation" appearing on
the Soul Train 25th Anniversary box set (MCA
11329) is actually the "LP Version" radio edit from the
promo CD single? Currently, the database shows a
"neither the 45 nor LP version" comment for this entry.

Yes I have the original LP from 1989 and those tracks as well as State of the World are shorter than the CD and Cassette releases. The LP Edit of Miss You Much was the commerical single version in the US and UK and the LP Edit of State of the World is the same as the edit on the US promo CD and the version I heard played on US radio stations that were available in the UK at the time.
The new vinyl reissue of Rhythm Nation 1814 released in 2019 doesn't have these shorter edits on the UK pressing, I'm not sure if it's the case for other countries releases though.

Edited by 75azabache on 03 December 2021 at 12:29pm

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