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eric_a
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An addition to the database: the promo 45 (Columbia
04496) has the single version (listed 3:56, actual 3:46)
backed with the full LP version (listed 4:26, actual
4:24).
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EternalStatic
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Can anyone provide details for the single version of this song? From other posts, I have gleaned that the "Edited Version" from the promo 45 must be the same as the A-side of the commercial single, and that it runs closer to 3:46 than the printed time of 3:56. Wondering if the single edit can be recreated from the 'Street Talk' album version, and if there is anything more to be done than applying an early fade?
Thanks!
Edited by EternalStatic on 02 May 2020 at 4:29pm
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I have a copy of the 45 version that was sent to me. It
does run 3:46. I don't know what's edited out but can send
it to you if you'd like to analyze it.
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EternalStatic
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Hi John -
I would greatly appreciate that. Have been wanting to dig into this one for a long time.
-Eric
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EternalStatic
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I have reviewed the file that John graciously provided. The 45 version sounds to be the same mix as the album version, and can be successfully extracted from it. I used the 1984 'Street Talk' CD version to make my edit, though you could likely use 'Greatest Hits + Five Unreleased' as well. I just find the mastering on that letter album to be pretty gross.
It seems the edit is a similar job to the "Strung Out" edit discussed elsewhere on the board - two quick edits on the intro is pretty much it, save for a healthy early fade. I can understand why these choices were made for "She's Mine": it's a lot less meandering when you get straight in to the action.
Using the 1984 CD version with a runtime of 4:27, I made the following edits:
1. Cut the keyboard-only intro so that the file begins abruptly with the double-snare hit. I made my edit from 0.00 to 0:10.404 (this left just a tiny, pretty much imperceptible bit of the end of the keyboard intro that overlaps with the snare hit, as this seems to be present on the 45 -- I do think that the opening attack sounds smoother with this little bit left on … it's probably not frankly necessary.)
2. FROM THE RESULTANT FILE: Remove a further four measures from the intro, cutting from the keyboard hit at 0:08.040 to the same chord at 0:17.829 (I made my edits just on the inside of the keyboard stab -- this may not be strictly identical to the 45 but it fixed that "whooshy" sound you get sometimes when you edit right on the beat and suddenly an instrument is gone from the mix … so use your best judgment here. If you want to edit right on the keyboard stab, it's probably fine.)
3. FROM THE RESULTANT FILE: Cut at about 3:46.999, and apply a bell curve fade starting at around 3:29.5. The last bit of perceptible audio, judging from the rip that John sent, is a double-time snare attack that hits four times, but before the guitar can be heard on the next beat starting a new phrase in the solo.
Your file should run just shy of 3:47 if you don't add space to the beginning or end of the file.
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Bumping for MikeM.
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