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MarilynsPickle
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Only a few of Paul McCartney's "DJ Edits" have appeared on CD, and I was wondering if anyone here was expert enough to know how one would go about cutting down the CD versions to recreate the edits for songs like "Band On The Run", "Jet", "Mull Of Kintyre" and "London Town".
Any help would be greatly appreciated! :)
I was able to get the accurate "Silly Love Songs" Edit thanks to an older thread here. This is a great forum!
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Wow. "Mull Of Kintyre" had a radio edit in the US?
I never knew.
Do you own a promo copy?
Andy
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I do not.
It's a US promo with a 3:31 edit of Mull Of Kintyre on side A and a 3:19 edit of Girl's School on side B (which HAS appeared on CD)
I'm hoping someone here is able to help. These are the only ones I need descriptions for:
Jet (DJ Edit) 2:49
Band On The Run (DJ Edit) 3:50
Mull Of Kintyre (DJ Edit) 3:31
London Town (DJ Edit) 3:48
Edited to remove:
Let 'Em In (DJ Edit) 3:43 < thanks to sriv94 :)
Edited by MarilynsPickle on 21 April 2006 at 9:47am
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Thanks for the info!
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MarilynsPickle wrote:
Let 'Em In (DJ Edit) 3:43
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I believe the DJ edit for "Let 'Em In" cuts from the trombone solo to the last "sister Susie" refrain, then fades during the second of the three snare drum/flute interludes at the end.
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Thank you so much! That brings it right to the correct time so that should be correct. Woohoo! :)
If anyone knows any of the other edits, please post them here. :)
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I just found out that Paul McCartney's "Jet" has TWO completely different DJ edits. One runs (2:49) as Pat has listed in his book, and the other runs right around (2:42). The difference between the two is that the longer one has a :04 intro and fades out at the end, while the shorter one has an :08 intro and ends cold like the LP version.
I have a friend who used to own both copies, and he's checking to see if he still has the cold-ending promo to provide the deadwax info.
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sriv94 wrote:
I believe the DJ edit for "Let 'Em In" cuts from the trombone
solo to the last "sister Susie" refrain, then fades during the second of the
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Actually, I believe the retail single has it fading at the end and the promo
doesn't. I do seem to recall playing the promo version on-air and having a
good, non-faded ending as opposed to the released single (prior to any sort
of on-air processing and listening right off the board). If I can find my copy
I'll verify this.
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Or I can check tonight as well. Skyline has a version of the promo on their site, so I can check there (doesn't mean it's right, of course). I have the song on two McCartney CDs--All The Best and Wingspan, and in both cases the tune runs (5:08) and ends, well, sorta cold (one long held note at the end that quiets down eventually). I had always assumed that that was the commercial copy (I seem to recall the radio version fading, but 30 year memories can play tricks on me :) ).
Edited by sriv94 on 16 June 2006 at 10:53am
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Doug,
If you can check that would be great. For some reason my promo is MIA at
the moment.
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After further review, I stand corrected. The Skyline version (assuming that it is correct) jibes with Bill's recollection. It runs (3:44). The edit strips the opening chimes (so that it starts with the piano chord), makes the big edit during the second "sister Susie" refrain (cutting to the "innn-nnnn" of the third refrain [where you hear McCartney's falsetto vocals and the extra "yeah, yeah, yeah"], which leads into the final chorus). And the promo ends cold (and seems to be slightly pitched up).
My guess is that WLS in Chicago played the promo but faded it slightly early when carting it (which is why I thought the promo was a fade).
So now the question is--does the actual commercial single fade at the end, or end like the Wingspan and All The Best CD versions (and I would guess the At The Speed Of Sound CD version too--even though I don't have it)? Ed?
Edited by sriv94 on 16 June 2006 at 6:18pm
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Good luck on editing the 2:49 Jet! That edit is a mess! I have reference copies on everything but Mull/Girls School so if anyone wants em just email me at Cahillbill@aol.com and I can get you an mp3. I have never seen or heard that second edit of Jet. I'd be interested in knowing what the differences are. I just noticed that Let Em in had two promo copies, short/long mono, the other short/long mono. Doubt there is any difference.
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doug....which song do you need a 45 of and i'll shoot it to you now.....is it "jet" that you need???....lmk
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It was "Let 'Em In," but you don't have to send it (unless you want to). All I need you to do is tell me whether the 45 fades toward the end or if it ends with one long held note (that may or may not fade). In other words, does the commercial 45 match the (5:08) CD versions?
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doug
my notes indicate that the 45 of "let 'em in" is identical to the 5:08 full cd/lp version from the "all the best" cd.....
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edtop40 wrote:
my notes indicate that the 45 of "let 'em in" is identical to the 5:08 full cd/lp version from the "all the best" cd.....
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I was curious and pulled out my Capitol stock copy, (which indeed runs 5:08, fyi), and I was struck by how long and low the fade runs before the sting at the end.
I've usually heard it on my station, where there's not much fade left after our compression; probably the same on most other stations. Yet I'll bet a lot of DJs over the years may have jumped the gun at the end of the song, thinking the song simply faded. That could explain how it could be inconsistent, even at the same station.
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Sorry to bump an old thread. I'm confused over the correct (DJ) editing of Let 'Em In. Would anyone be able to provide edit points?
Any details regarding the other DJ edits is more than welcome as well. ;)
Edited by Underground Dub on 30 March 2007 at 10:22am
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Where has the (3:19) edit of "Girl's School" appeared on cd?
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I just picked up the Mull of Kintyre / Girls School promo. Here's how I hear Mull of Kintyre edited: Using Wingspan you edit from the start of the Mull of Kintyre chorus at 2:30 to the Mull of Kintyre chorus at 4:01. Then, instead of continuing to the end cheering section which would naturally happen, you actually repeat that SAME chorus a second time (where the cheering section would have started).. then after that chorus, it goes to the cheering ending section.
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Girls School DJ edit: I compared it to the stock 45. I believe the lone edit point is at 2:38, right after Paul sings "Girls School". Then you edit to Paul right after Girls School at 3:21 for his guitar. Start fade of your edited wave at 3:06 to 3:22. (It's also an earlier fade out) Label says 3:19, promo run time is actually 3:22.
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