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PopArchivist MusicFan
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Posted: 10 August 2020 at 9:04pm | IP Logged
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Jimct wrote:
We/many other stations were still using carts to a large extent during 1987, although their "death rattle" would come soon enough. We had both a "cued-past-the-organ" cart and the full CD in-studio at our station, for those jocks comfortable just cueing the disc past the organ. Our station policy (like many others, I suspect) was to never play the organ intro on-air at all. |
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I can't imagine hearing an organ on a pop radio station during 1987-1988 would work with the flow of the Top 40 programming....
Edited by PopArchivist on 10 August 2020 at 9:11pm
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eriejwg wrote:
To go back to what was mentioned earlier in the thread about stations, like Jim's, that didn't play the organ portion, TM has the song in their library as "intro edit." I don't have a copy of their file, but I've chopped off the organ on my file and labeled it the
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I never heard the organ for Faith on the radio. I consider the song to start when the guitar starts. Call it an unofficial edit, but Jim's insight is completely legit in this instance.
I am honestly surprised that it didn't appear on a promo or on any compilation that way since its release...
Edited by PopArchivist on 10 August 2020 at 9:08pm
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jebsib MusicFan
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My local Top 40 station played the Organ intro for the first two weeks. But
because Faith was a relatively short song, the intro served as a perfect music
bed for the jock to talk over and cue up the song. 3 months earlier, the same
station also played the endless and cringy intro to Michael Jackson's "I Just
Can't Stop Loving You" - which you could NOT talk over. That lasted a week or
so. In both cases, the songs were event records, so I think more latitude was
given by programming staff.
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NightAire MusicFan
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I'm having an extremely difficult time accepting this entry in Discogs, which claims to be (according to the label on the jacket) a "12" Dance Remix / made from the original master."
I couldn't find another 12" from any other country making this claim. Knowing the song hit the dance charts, how could they have not released this in the United States (and likely elsewhere)?
The label doesn't list the time and the poster gives us no insight... so is this a typo and it's actually the LP / single version, or is this some kind of DJ-created bootleg, or did they really release a special dance version of "Faith" only in the Philippines?
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NightAire wrote:
I'm having an extremely difficult time accepting this entry in Discogs, which claims to be (according to the label on the jacket) a "12" Dance Remix / made from the original master."
I couldn't find another 12" from any other country making this claim. Knowing the song hit the dance charts, how could they have not released this in the United States (and likely elsewhere)?
The label doesn't list the time and the poster gives us no insight... so is this a typo and it's actually the LP / single version, or is this some kind of DJ-created bootleg, or did they really release a special dance version of "Faith" only in the Philippines? |
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Isn't this the one GM fans refer to as The Lost remix?
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Here's another George Michael/Wham Philippines release: https://www.discogs.com/Wham-Featuring-George-Michael-Carele ss-Whisper-12-Dance-Remix/release/9578988
This one also says 12" Dance Remix on the jacket.
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Another: https://www.discogs.com/George-Michael-Father-Figure-12-Danc e-Remix/release/8540998
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NightAire MusicFan
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That is bizarre, Aaron!! You'd think if these things existed they would have ended up on the recent remaster of "Faith."
You'd ALSO think in a global community like ours, SOMEBODY in the Philippines would have posted the audio from these singles so we could confirm or deny they were anything other than the album cuts.
Bizarro!
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995wlol MusicFan
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NightAire wrote:
You'd ALSO think in a global community like ours, SOMEBODY in the Philippines would have posted the audio from these singles so we could confirm or deny they were anything other than the album cuts.
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My gut says they most likely contain the album version. Otherwise, there WOULD be audio out there at this point. It wouldn't be the first time an LP version has been labeled as a special mix on an old single.
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AudioDile MusicFan
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I'm about 99.99999% certain these are the album versions.
The only mixes of songs from Faith (not counting instrumentals) were for Monkey (by Jam & Lewis) and
Hard Day (by Shep Pettibone), and all of them appeared on the deluxe reissue.
If there were any other mixes existing, they surely would have been released here.
I guess you could count I Want Your Sex, although Part 2 & 3 aren't remixes but just additional versions.
There WERE however actual remixes of I Want Your Sex done several years later by the Freemasons.
Edited by AudioDile on 11 July 2021 at 12:08am
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AndrewChouffi MusicFan
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Hi people,
Don't forget that back in the 80s occasionally
commercial 12 inchers (especially non-US) were simply a
re-edited looping of the album version to make it
technically an 'extended version'.
So possibly the Phillippines George Michael 12-inchers
are extended versions, but not commissioned remixes.
Andy
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