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995wlol
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Hi All -
I'm new to the site and have been amazed to see to collective knowledge of everyone on this board.
Anyway, in digging through the database I noticed that there is no distinction between "When You Close Your Eyes" from the "Midnight Madness" LP and the "Greatest Hits" (MCA 42307). However, they are completely different vocal takes. I have M.M. and used to own "Hits." In fact, you can hear the difference just from listening to the audio clips on allmusic.com.
Does anyone know what version was used on the 45? I have to assume it was the M.M. version because that is what I remember hearing on the radio when it was first released.
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Welcome to the board, 995wlol. I just listened to the song samples on allmusic.com, and you're right. Great catch! Unfortunately, I can't be much help on this one since I only have the cassette tape of "Greatest Hits." I'm sure someone can help sort it out, though.
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Sorry I can't be of direct help, but the version on the CD 20th Century
Masters-The Millennium Collection (MCA 088 112 307-2) is the same
vocal take as the 45, and the CD claims their version is from Midnight
Madness.
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Paul: There was a 4-CD MCA hit sampler sent to my radio station, back in 1989. Lucky for me, our then-afternoon-guy/MD left the station, to go work for MCA as a promotion man that same year. He soon after mailed me my own copy of it, as a Christmas present for all the help I'd been to him! To date, it has proven to be a very reliable source of MCA 80s hit 45 versions on CD. Last night, I shot out all the necessary audio to Aaron, who will compare the 45/CD audio and will soon report back with his findings. Once we get this initial comparison straight, I hope to also check some database CDs, to confirm 995wlol's claims.
Edited by jimct on 28 December 2006 at 9:18am
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Jim sent me a dub of his 45 to compare, and the 45 vocal matches the LP vocal. The version on Greatest Hits, as 995wlol states above, is an alternate take.
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995wlol
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Wow, thanks everybody--I had a feeling you guys would get to the bottom of this!
Just a couple of other notes. It seems that the "alternate take" version has gotten a foothold on radio because I have heard it on the syndicated "Backtracks USA" 80s radio show as well as a now-defunct 80s station here in the Twin Cities.
I have a handful of other obsevations/questions about single versions that I'm looking forward to discussing with all of you.
Thanks again,
Mike
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We're here to help, Mike. I'm sure we all appreciate you bringing up these differences we hadn't discovered. And most likely the reason that Backtrax and other stations are playing the "alternate" version is because they hadn't noticed the difference either.
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Welcome on board, Mike.
Long live the old WLOL (1981-1991)!
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AndrewChouffi
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I synched up the 'Midnight Madness' & the 'Greatest Hits' versions. No differences. No phasing errors.
Please descibe any differences I have missed.
Thank you.
Andy
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aaronk
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If what you say is true, Andrew, then there may be more than one pressing of Greatest Hits. You might want to take a listen to them seperately, because it's highly possible they used the same music track but with an alternate take on the vocals. If you listen to the second verse, for example, you can hear a slight difference on the line "been an awful hard night of drinking." He almost sounds off-key on the Greatest Hits version, especially noticeable on the word "drinking."
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Hi 'aaronk',
Please ignore my post-- my dub from 'Midnight Madness' was MISLABELED and I compared the real version with the 'Greatest Hits' version and there are real differences (and a slight pitch difference, too).
Andy
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Finally I have obtained the U.S. pressing "Midnight Madness" vinyl LP (MCA/Camel 5456 matrix # side 2"MCA 3688 AZ 1" TIME: actual 4:15/listed 4:16). The lyric at :47 on the vinyl LP is "Do you still think about me". (FYI. The Japan CD "Greatest Hits" appears "Do you still..."lyric at :47 as well as the U.S. "Greatest Hits" CD, probably) The lyric at :46 on the commercial 45 (MCA/Camel MCA-52420) is "I bet you still think about me". However... I'm confused. Because the U.S. LP was NOT the same as the Japan LP. The Japan "Midnight Madness" LP (also released in 1983) has the lyric of "I bet you still think about me" at :47. Perhaps this is the same as the U.S. "Midnight Madness" CD in the Pat's database. I presume there are 2 different pressings of the "Midnight Madness" LP in the U.S. Or, the CD content differs from the LP content. Could you please post any LP/CD contents with the matrix number? Let's assemble information about this song, all the members!
--abagon
Edited by abagon on 15 August 2010 at 8:11am
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My US CD copy of "Midnight Madness" (MCAD-31160) contains the "I bet you still think about me" lyric at :47. My copy was pressed in the US and purchased sometime in the mid '90s. I would be curious to know if the early US CD, which was actually pressed in Japan has the "Do you still think about me" lyric. Perhaps this is a situation where the original LP version was quicky replaced by the 45 version on the vinyl (and possibly CD). Thanks for pointing this out Abagon!
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You're welcome, 995wlol!
Pat
What lyric at :47 does your "Midnight Madness" CD contain? If it contains the "I bet you still think about me" lyric as 995wlol's CD. I think that the "LP version" description for the "Midnight Madness" CD on the database is NOT right. As an example, it should have the comment "CD LP version," and the "Greatest Hits" CD should have the comment "Vinyl LP version" at this time. However, those comments may change when another CD/LP comes up.
--abagon
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I have a question regarding When You Close Your Eyes.
The only version I have in hand is from the MCA hits
sampler clocking in at 4:10. I noticed the promo 45
lists the duration as 4:02 (misprint?) and the LP
version duration is 4:16. Are there any differences
between the promo 45, mca sampler, and the Album Version
(other than a timing difference)?
Edited by promojunkie on 06 July 2021 at 10:03am
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The actual 45 run time reported by Pat is 4:08.
The vinyl LP version is found on the Greatest Hits CD, runs 4:16, and has a different vocal take than the hit 45. The MCA Hits Sampler has the correct 45 version, and the audio is completely gone by 4:09.
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