Active TopicsActive Topics  Display List of Forum MembersMemberlist  Search The ForumSearch  HelpHelp
  RegisterRegister  LoginLogin
Chat Board
 Top 40 Music on Compact Disc : Chat Board
Subject Topic: Missing Persons - Words Post ReplyPost New Topic
Author
Message << Prev Topic | Next Topic >>
Bwci Bo
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 08 August 2013
Location: New Zealand
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 183
Posted: 01 December 2015 at 12:24am | IP Logged Quote Bwci Bo

Amazingly, I've only discovered this song recently after a
friend introduced me to it. I don't think any Missing
Persons songs were successful here in NZ. I don't
remember hearing any of them on the radio and none of them
charted here.

Just curious - can the 3:40 DJ edit of 'Words' be created
easily using the 4:25 version? I'd like to give it a shot
if anyone can provide instructions. Otherwise I will have
to purchase one of the numerous CDs that features the DJ
edit.
Back to Top View Bwci Bo's Profile Search for other posts by Bwci Bo
 
crapfromthepast
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 14 September 2006
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2243
Posted: 01 December 2015 at 7:07pm | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast

The promo 45 version is easier than I expected.

First, delete the fade-in, so that the song starts on the first beat.

Then, it's an early fade - no other edits.

After you delete the fade-in, the fade starts on a downbeat, on the word "words" at 3:15.

The tail of the fade is absurdly long. End the fade at 3:40 (after you delete the fade-in), and you'll have the promo 45 version.

__________________
There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one Crap From The Past.
Back to Top View crapfromthepast's Profile Search for other posts by crapfromthepast Visit crapfromthepast's Homepage
 
jimct
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 07 April 2006
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3906
Posted: 01 December 2015 at 8:16pm | IP Logged Quote jimct

So happy to see a thread on this song. I remember the original MTV video
(the one with Dale Bozzio heavily made up, in a barely-there, two-
strategically-placed-black-half-moons plastic top and a square,
computer-gizmo bottom, and five colors of hair (quite common now, but
the overall look very much stood out back in late '81.)) "Words" was their
first 45, and I was first introduced to the song via the video, which didn't
fade, but ended, with a brief drum flourish. I loved it. Maybe it's just
because that's the way I first heard it, but I've always thought that the
video's ending fit the song best, by a mile.

Yet every "Words" 45, LP and/or 12" version that I have ever happened
upon, since back when it was a current, fades the song out. To this day, I
still feel a major letdown, not ever hearing the non-faded ending from the
video. Best as I can tell, the video uses the exact same take - it just goes
on for a bit longer.

I have their GH CD, and I also liked "Destination Unknown" a lot, but I'm
far from an expert on the band Missing Persons. Perhaps someone else on
here is, though, and might know of a domestic or import CD or vinyl
source that features the full length, video version. Thanks as always, for
any possible help!
Back to Top View jimct's Profile Search for other posts by jimct
 
Bwci Bo
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 08 August 2013
Location: New Zealand
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 183
Posted: 02 December 2015 at 4:44pm | IP Logged Quote Bwci Bo

Well, that was exceptionally easy! Thanks very much, Ron.
Back to Top View Bwci Bo's Profile Search for other posts by Bwci Bo
 
aaronk
Admin Group
Admin Group


Joined: 16 January 2005
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 6514
Posted: 02 December 2015 at 9:19pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

jimct wrote:
I was first introduced to the song via the video, which
didn't fade, but ended, with a brief drum flourish. I loved it. Maybe it's
just because that's the way I first heard it, but I've always thought that
the video's ending fit the song best, by a mile.

Best as I can tell, the video uses the exact same take - it just goes
on for a bit longer.

I just pulled up the video on YouTube, and the opening title screen says
"live 1981." While it's not a live concert video, the band appears to be
playing the song live while the video is being shot, so it's not lip synced.
Therefore this version really is a completely different recording to
what's on the album and single.

__________________
Aaron Kannowski
Uptown Sound
91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop
Back to Top View aaronk's Profile Search for other posts by aaronk Visit aaronk's Homepage
 
Bellenger1981
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 18 July 2019
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 228
Posted: 08 January 2021 at 6:36pm | IP Logged Quote Bellenger1981

Isn't the promo 45 version of "Words" not just simply a
fade out (after the intro is cut off)? Once cutting off
the intro, at 3:27, electric guitar comes back in and
then the "do you hear me, do you care" lyrics. This is
not heard in the promo 45 version (as it fades out at
that point in time) if it were just to fade out. Sounds
like the chorus has been spliced in an extra time
somewhere around 3:15 in order to keep the chorus
repeating as the song fades out.

__________________
Jason Bellenger
Byron Center, Michigan, USA
Back to Top View Bellenger1981's Profile Search for other posts by Bellenger1981
 
promojunkie
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 08 August 2020
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 168
Posted: 05 July 2021 at 6:55am | IP Logged Quote promojunkie

bumping this thread up again. Bellenger1981 pointed out
there might be an extra chorus edited in before the
long fade out. Anyone able to confirm?

Edited by promojunkie on 05 July 2021 at 6:56am


__________________
Rick
Back to Top View promojunkie's Profile Search for other posts by promojunkie
 
aaronk
Admin Group
Admin Group


Joined: 16 January 2005
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 6514
Posted: 05 July 2021 at 8:51am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

That's correct. The promo 45 has a looped chorus at the end. It can be created using the LP version, and the edit/loop occurs about half way through the fade out. If you remove the intro of the LP version, the segment from 3:12 to 3:27 is looped once (edit just before the word "all"). After creating the loop, fade from about 3:16 to 3:40, removing any audio beyond 3:40.

__________________
Aaron Kannowski
Uptown Sound
91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop
Back to Top View aaronk's Profile Search for other posts by aaronk Visit aaronk's Homepage
 

If you wish to post a reply to this topic you must first login
If you are not already registered you must first register

  Post ReplyPost New Topic
Printable version Printable version

Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



This page was generated in 0.0605 seconds.