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Robbie Patton recorded a song "Smiling Islands", released as a single in 1982. Verse 1, chorus, verse 2, chorus, bridge, and Stevie Nicks finished the song by repeating verses 1 and 2, with a tag of "smiling islands", then fade out.
But a local radio station in Richmond VA wasn't playing Robbie's single, they were instead playing a specially edited version of this, cutting out Robbie's verses altogether, replacing them with Stevie's verses, so Stevie ended up singing all 4 verses by herself! It was in pretty good rotation solid for several weeks.
So I go to the record store to pick up the single, and surprise Robbie is singing verses 1 + 2. I called up the radio station and asked whats up with that? He told me someone at their parent company put this all-Stevie version together, and offered to send me a copy, but I didn't take him up on his offer.
So using my own tape deck, I created my own edit of this, to match what the radio station was playing. And I got very very close to it, but my tape deck wasn't as fast on the edits so there was a little drag in there at times. Then I called up the DJ again and asked for a copy, and he mailed me a cassette of it.
So far, it's not up on YouTube, but you can imagine how it would sound by listening to the regular version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzToUPIiV9w
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This has nothing to do with edits, but I
bought the "Smiling Islands" 45 in 1983,
and I always thought it was a great song.
There was another song ("For Shame") that
got local airplay in my area around the
same time because the band KIX was from 30
miles down I-81. I thought both of these
songs would be huge national hits, and
neither of them were. KIX had their only
Top 40 hit in 1989 as I am sure many of
you know.
Here is the song I am talking about from
1983. KIX was a few years ahead of the
hair-band-ballad craze with this song. I
rarely post so I hope I am not setting
myself up for others to think, "What a
terrible song." Sorry for going off-
topic, but the "Smiling Islands" post made
me think of it.
Watch "For Shame" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/pcl3OHMsmR4
Edited by maciav on 24 February 2021 at 11:43am
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How about Gordon Lightfoot's "The Wreck of The Edmund Fitzgerald"?
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garye
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radiofan16 wrote:
How about Gordon Lightfoot's "The
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Have the Reprise Edit dub at 5:23.
Just cut out some of the guitar bridges.
But it kinda works.
You can tell where the edits are if you listen closely.
Radio!
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But, the 5:23 edit was an official Reprise promo edit. Were
there any stations that created an even shorter edit?
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garye
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eriejwg wrote:
But, the 5:23 edit was an official
Reprise promo edit. Were
there any stations that created an even shorter edit?
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Living in Houston, Texas at the time, the 4 Top 40
stations in town played the 5:23 edit.
No in house edit there.
But possible WLS and especially WABC might have done an
in house and maybe LA market.
Just have to think editing down you would lose the
narrative of the song.
Just my thoughts.
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eriejwg
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I only carry the 5:23 edit in my active music library. I
remember recreating it years ago and it was quite a few
short edits as I recall.
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radiofan16
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eriejwg wrote:
But, the 5:23 edit was an official Reprise promo edit. Were
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There was a version on YT that has since been removed that shortened the
guitar passages in the first verse.
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KFRC in San Francisco made a lot of custom edits in the late 70's. A few I remember are:
Miracles - Jefferson Starship (3:54)
They used the Lp intro and cold ending. i made my own version of this one.
Do You Feel Like We Do - Peter Frampton
KFRC's edit ran about 7 minutes. It was edited from the Lp and had a lot of parts that were not on the 45 version.
Miss You - Rolling Stones (~4:45)
This was a mesh up of the Lp version and 12" version. It was noticeable when they cut back to the Lp, since the Lp is a slower pitch than the 12" single. By 1979 they dropped their custom edit and just played the Lp version.
Do Ya Think I'm Sexy? - Rod Stewart
Played an edit of the 12" single.
Tonight's the Night - Rod Stewart (~3:10)
Cut out the "come on angel" verse.
Runaway - Jefferson Starship
Similar to the single edit, but with the instrumental beak shortened and a part from the Lp version near the end.
Mac Arthur Park - Donna Summer
Started like one of the longer version, but finished like the single version.
There are probably more, but these are the ones i remember.
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WLOL in Minneapolis played a few different custom
edits in the 80s that I remember.
Always Something There To Remind Me - Naked Eyes
Edit of the 12" Jellybean mix
Jingle Bell Rock - Daryl Hall & John Oates
Around the holidays they would play a version that
spliced together the "Daryl version" and "John
version" to make a duet
Talking In Your Sleep - Romantics
Spliced LP and 12" mixes together
Owner of a Lonely Heart - Yes
Edited the instrumental bridge down using a crossfade
One Night In Bangkok - Murray Head/Robey
Spliced together the 12" versions from both artists
After WLOL flipped to "Dance 40" in mid 1990, a
majority of the songs in regular rotation were custom
mixes/edits
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Vince wrote:
KFRC in San Francisco made a lot of
custom edits in the late 70's. A few I remember are:
Tonight's the Night - Rod Stewart (~3:10)
Cut out the "come on angel" verse.
Mac Arthur Park - Donna Summer
Started like one of the longer version, but finished
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Quite a few stations did edits of the Rod Stewart
song, though ISTR it being the line "spread your wings
and let me come inside" that got replaced/deleted.
There was also a version with Brit Ekland (?) mixed
out of the fade.
As far as "McArthur Park" goes, back in '78 my "day
job" required considerable travel, and I spent a
couple weeks in Montreal while that song was on the
charts, and heard a similar version there. At the
time I just assumed it was the Canadian single version
(or a Canadian-only promo edit). Liked it better than
what was serviced here in the U.S.
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Did my own Frampton edit which times at 6:11. I just
edited the first 5 or minutes of the LP and then edited
in the single at the talk box part for rest of song.
It is surprising what you can edit down with a little
time!
Even Hotel California to 4:30!
Well when you can't go anywhere.....
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garye wrote:
But possible WLS and especially WABC might have done an in house and maybe LA market.
Just have to think editing down you would lose the narrative of the song.
Just my thoughts. |
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WLS' version ran (4:20)--one edit was after "With a crew and good captain well seasoned" to "The dawn came late and the breakfast had to wait"
and the other was after "Of the wives and the sons and the daughters" to "In a musty old hall in Detroit they prayed" (and it was slightly sped).
It actually came out passable. Certainly heard worse hack jobs. :)
Edited by sriv94 on 05 March 2021 at 6:50pm
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Speaking of "MacArthur Park", did any stations cut down the original Richard Harris version back in the day?
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Paul Haney wrote:
Speaking of "MacArthur Park", did
any stations cut down the original Richard Harris
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Sadly, yes. The station that gave me my first radio
job produced a house edit that ran 5-ish minutes.
Basically the intro was shortened and the instrumental
bridge was mostly removed. It was awful, and to add
to the insult no one bothered to locate the splice
when it was dubbed to cart. Mysteriously, when the PD
(who created it) was on vacation the cart mysteriously
jammed, and we just played the full version for the
rest of the chart run.
garye wrote:
Even Hotel California to 4:30!
Well when you can't go anywhere..... |
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HC was one of those songs with what I used to call the
infinite fade. You could dump that one any time after
the 5 minute mark and not lose anything. Convenient
for when you had to backtime to a newscast or
something.
Not that I would ever "cheat" like that...
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garye
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Hykker wrote:
Paul Haney wrote:
Speaking of
"MacArthur Park", did
any stations cut down the original Richard Harris
version back in the day? |
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Sadly, yes. The station that gave me my first radio
job produced a house edit that ran 5-ish minutes.
Basically the intro was shortened and the instrumental
bridge was mostly removed. It was awful, and to add
to the insult no one bothered to locate the splice
when it was dubbed to cart. Mysteriously, when the PD
(who created it) was on vacation the cart mysteriously
jammed, and we just played the full version for the
rest of the chart run.
garye wrote:
Even Hotel California to 4:30!
Well when you can't go anywhere..... |
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HC was one of those songs with what I used to call the
infinite fade. You could dump that one any time after
the 5 minute mark and not lose anything. Convenient
for when you had to backtime to a newscast or
something.
Not that I would ever "cheat" like that...
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Of course not! Far be it from radio guys to even THINK
like that! lol
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I don't think it's been mentioned yet, but wasn't there an in-house edit done in 1978 that spliced together Neil Diamond and Barbra Streisand's solo versions
of "You Don't Bring Me Flowers" which prompted Neil and Barbra to get together in the studio and record the duet that came to be a #1 hit? Never heard the
spliced together version, although I'd definitely be interested in it.
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thecdguy wrote:
I don't think it's been mentioned yet, but wasn't there an in-house edit done in 1978 that spliced together Neil Diamond and Barbra Streisand's solo versions
of "You Don't Bring Me Flowers" which prompted Neil and Barbra to get together in the studio and record the duet that came to be a #1 hit? Never heard the
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I have the spliced duet as heard on AT40 in 1979. I can email it if you PM me
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The spliced version of "You Don't Bring Me Flowers" (as heard on AT40) is here:
You Don't Bring Me Flowers - Spliced Version
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Paul Haney wrote:
| Also, some 1980s hits like "Paradise City" by Guns N' Roses, and "One More Try" and "Father Figure" by George Michael. |
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Today I heard 106.1 "The Breeze" in Philly completely skip over the intro of "Father Figure" (beginning immediately with the vocals) and then very quickly fade out and have the DJ talk over the ending. This is different than co-owned 106.7 "Lite FM" in NYC which plays the full song.
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